0099 "Back At Bree's" [12/15/06]

[Cherie_Sotta]

Ok - you guys are being kinda mean to eachother. This story is FUN because its about guessing, researching and using our imaginations. Let's just ease off, take a lesson where it's learned and not make any strong claims over and over that we are not 110% sure about anymore. We need just FACTS if we're gonna help Bree! No one likes to read flame threads. Why not PM eachother next time?

[iamcool]

your a lil late, the arguments over

[khjq]

Plus, debating wether or not a video is shot in a certain location is irrevelant to the story.

[bethy]

How could the creators possibly let something like that get by them - especially knowing that we pick everything apart? And then leave this mysterious image in the window and try to get away with pretending it wasn't there?? No way. Our creators are waaayy smarter than this. As a whole group, we can't even figure out this story. They're one step ahead of us. And with the fact that they used the inside and outside of this house for this vid tells me that the image in the window is probably not an accident at all.

While the Creators are clever, they aren't above making huge mistakes. Like in Daniel's "Following the Helper" video, the computer's clock clearly said "Thursday, October 12" even though October 12 was already supposed to have passed in the storyline. And then there's the whole debacle with "The Test" and "Your Decision" turning out to have been filmed before the forum ever got the chance to "decide" if B&D should go to Jonas'.

Exactly...I think it's crazy to think that every frame is purposefully included. The creators videos are full of holes, lots of things that are esentially meaningless ot the storyline.

Like the thing with the helicopters. A lot of people assume the the helicopters play a role. In fact, the videos are filmed in Los Angeles, helicopters are common everywhere. Media copters, police copters, provate ones...they're everywhere here. Chances are they were just in the background and don't mean anything to the story....but a lot of users want to see clues in everything....do we really have that many clues in these videos? A handful perhaps...but not in every frame. Now, the OpAPhid/Tachy vids are a different story.

[Languorous Lass]

You both need to up your dosages. The internet is not a public place under The Americans with Disabilities Act. I don't have to accommodate you unless you are blind under case precedent. And that's being liberal.

I haven't a clue what you're talking about. And obviously neither do you.

Obviously, you have no right to ask about my mental health status or anyone else's . . . Free Speech Rules!

Slightly inconsistent statements, those.

As far as "credentials" go, there's no way in hell I should have to divulge a disability if I don't want to -- that is the law.

But "The Internet is not a public place under the Americans with Disabilities Act." So the law doesn't apply here -- right?

So pressuring someone to do so is a no-no and very rude.

But calling people with disabilities nasty names isn't rude?

Glowe, you are clearly an ass, and I should just ignore you. But when you make statements that are not only ignorant, but offensive, I feel compelled to speak up. So sue me.

Oh, but the law doesn't apply here. So you've got no grounds. Too damn bad.

[Cherie_Sotta]

Lurker -
I totally see your point! Those are pretty excellent examples of mistakes... and the window image could also be grouped with this... but there are still the two things that keep me from it.

-The crew and cast had access to the entire house for this shoot

-This video has one of the most important shots in the series; the first time we see Bree's house after her parents have dissappeared and Bree & Daniel have been on the run.

The 2 things you've suggested are continuity errors - so, perhaps the shot of Daniel looking at the house from afar was shot on a separate day or between a large amount of time that the inside of the house was?

[Languorous Lass]

Ok...
Someone is living in this "office" or spare guest room or whatever it is in Bree's house.

There is a laptop open in front of the home computer, an open box of what looks like the box of a frosted shredded wheat package, files, envelopes, papers sitting on top of the copy machine (it could be one of those combo fax/scanners, too) and as for the speculation about that weird blob Daniel focuses on for a moment - I got a good cap of it and they're definitely keys. Look like rental car keys maybe with those silver rings that have paper covering them... the really cheap keyrings used for motels/rental cars/rental things that need keys....

Okay, I can see why you might think that someone's living there. But couldn't all of this evidence also indicate that Bree's parents were hustled out really quickly and didn't have time to clean anything up? That's supposedly what happened to the family back in Nottinghamshire that was discussed in Gemma's early vids -- the family that turned out to be Tachyon's.

How do you KNOW no other shooting has not gone on there? Do you have acccess to this house to know for sure? calphilips had a video where he interviewed the owner of the house, and he *IS* connected to the Creators and the project.

My point is that Daniel never showed Bree's room. He was in *some* house, but no reall proof he was at Bree's. Yes, I know Bree's "room" in in the apartment...that's beside the issue.

Fercrissakes, bethy, haven't you ever heard of suspension of disbelief?

We know the video is set in Bree's house BECAUSE DANIEL TOLD US IT'S SET IN BREE'S HOUSE. The medical pamphlets are the focus of part of the video BECAUSE THE CREATORS WANTED US TO SEE THEM.

And what I'm saying is that saying those pamphlets were there because the people who really live there are doctors is moot, because no other shooting has been inside that actual house. It's been confirmed. Every place we've seen that is inside has been in a Creator's house. For example, Lucy's apartment. I'm not saying that that isn't Bree's house in a fictional sense. I'm saying that the pamphlets were SUPPOSED to be there and aren't just coindidences because the people who physically live there are medical professionals.

Exactly.

Sheesh.

[Lurker]

The 2 things you've suggested are continuity errors - so, perhaps the shot of Daniel looking at the house from afar was shot on a separate day or between a large amount of time that the inside of the house was?

That last idea would be my guess. Who knows how much footage they had (and how long they spent filming it) before they edited it down to a minute and fifty seconds? I personally doubt that whatever was up there in the window was important, or even intentional. Time will tell, but that's just my assumption for the moment.

Okay, I can see why you might think that someone's living there. But couldn't all of this evidence also indicate that Bree's parents were hustled out really quickly and didn't have time to clean anything up? That's supposedly what happened to the family back in Nottinghamshire that was discussed in Gemma's early vids -- the family that turned out to be Tachyon's.

That's what I thought too, LL.

[Languorous Lass]

Thanks, Lurker.

[Cherie_Sotta]

Yeah, LL that makes a lot of sense, too. There are so many details, it's so hard to keep track of them all!!!

[Languorous Lass]

Definitely true, Cherie. Looks like you've got a good eye for details, though.

[Cherie_Sotta]

So after like the 123808 time I've watched this vid (maybe it's the vouyer at heart I have to keep at bay) I checked it out on YouTube instead of the lonelygirl hopepage this time. One of the keywords in this video is "family room". It could be family, it could be room, but since YouTube doesn't alphebatize when they list their keywords, I believe these two are meant to be together. I took another look at the family room Daniel checks out and he opens a drawer. How many family rooms have a drawer with white material in it? Table cloths are for dining rooms. Folded white material? Perhaps they were the robes Daniel pokes fun at for the Fall Equinox Celebration that Bree meets Lucy at? With all the talk of robes lately (window image speculation, Warpylol reflections) this provokes my ... imagination... maybe there's more to this little "family room that's not like the nice family room" than we thought. Since, afterall, it is a keyword.

[aideen]

Everytime I watched that video I thought it was weird he opened the drawer. I mean, when you walk into a room, why go straight to a drawer under the TV? Tisnt normal.



Wait...if he and Bree always used to go in there, maybe they put something secret there? The mum and dad for them? Other than pmonkey?

OR

There's something Dan wasn't meant to see in there, that's why the dad used to always check on them! TO MAKE SURE DANIEL HADN'T OPENED THE DRAWER

[livelongandprosper77]

Wait...if he and Bree always used to go in there, maybe they put something secret there?

You know that might exactly be what Daniel meant by finding something. He could have found either what he was looking for in that drawer or maybe Bree's parents left something in there. Hmm... interesting.

[trainer101]

Wait...if he and Bree always used to go in there, maybe they put something secret there?

You know that might exactly be what Daniel meant by finding something. He could have found either what he was looking for in that drawer or maybe Bree's parents left something in there. Hmm... interesting.

Maybe Daniel figured out that Bree's room has suspiciously been converted to an office...
j/k