106 Bree's Gone [12/26/06]

butterfly · Post by **butterfly** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:18 pm

Perhaps the CUSOON message from Bree was to Jonas and Daniel (and the rest of us). Her secret message was intended to let Jonas and Daniel know that she planned to leave and will return. Bree went looking for her dad. He does not know she's vlogging, so I don't think her secret message was for him. How she got a message back to her dad to confirm she received his message without the Order finding out remains to be seen.

joygasm · Post by **joygasm** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:22 pm

butterfly wrote:Perhaps the CUSOON message from Bree was to Jonas and Daniel (and the rest of us). Her secret message was intended to let Jonas and Daniel know that she planned to leave and will return. Bree went looking for her dad. He does not know she's vlogging, so I don't think her secret message was for him. How she got a message back to her dad to confirm she received his message without the Order finding out remains to be seen.

This was discussed 2 or 3 pages back.

arammat · Post by **arammat** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:23 pm

Lauren wrote:
britty_43 wrote: On-Topic: Anyone else find it super weird that the guys weren't freaking out? They both care about Bree a LOT...but Jonas just sat there whining, and Daniel decided to "look for clues" in Bree's old vids. This is coming from the guy who broke into Lucy's apartment! He's supposed to be freaking out right now, looking for Bree, not doing research. Isn't research Bree's thing?
Yeah, Jonas was acting especially strange. Seems like he was just looking for pity. It's interesting that he talks about a credit card and money missing, though Daniel fails to confirm. According to him, only the car was missing.

Since the cash and card would be missing from Jonas's wallet, Jonas would have had to tell Daniel that in order for Daniel to confirm it. He might have omitting telling Daniel that part, or Daniel may have just omitted it when he was talking. I don't think either way that it is a significant point.

lonelyelendi · Post by **lonelyelendi** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:23 pm

butterfly wrote:Perhaps the CUSOON message from Bree was to Jonas and Daniel (and the rest of us). Her secret message was intended to let Jonas and Daniel know that she planned to leave and will return. Bree went looking for her dad. He does not know she's vlogging, so I don't think her secret message was for him. How she got a message back to her dad to confirm she received his message without the Order finding out remains to be seen.

Wow, here is that slap in the face that I desperately needed!

See, I had previously refuted the idea that the message was to Jonas or Daniel (as suggested by Joy) on the basis that I thought it was meant that she was waiting to see that person, not was suggesting that she would return soon...good point butterfly!

joygasm · Post by **joygasm** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:27 pm

lonelyelendi wrote:
butterfly wrote:Perhaps the CUSOON message from Bree was to Jonas and Daniel (and the rest of us). Her secret message was intended to let Jonas and Daniel know that she planned to leave and will return. Bree went looking for her dad. He does not know she's vlogging, so I don't think her secret message was for him. How she got a message back to her dad to confirm she received his message without the Order finding out remains to be seen.
Wow, here is that slap in the face that I desperately needed!

See, I had previously refuted the idea that the message was to Jonas or Daniel (as suggested by Joy) on the basis that I thought it was meant that she was waiting to see that person, not was suggesting that she would return soon...good point butterfly!

That was the point I was trying to make:

Joygasm wrote:I am not trying to start an arguement or anything. Just trying to explain my theory. If Daniel was there or not when she left, she knew Daniel was watching her videos (and Jonas's). She obviously was planning on leaving and not telling anyone. I am not necessarily saying it is a literal see you soon. I am just saying that may be her way of letting Daniel, Jonas, and the fans know that she is planning on returning and that she thought she would be ok. Maybe to ease their mind on the kidnapping theory.

lonelyelendi · Post by **lonelyelendi** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:29 pm

ROFL! I knew you would pick up when I said you were right! hahaha...well, it seems you had a valid point afterall, and I merely misunderstood!

joygasm · Post by **joygasm** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:31 pm

lonelyelendi wrote:ROFL! I knew you would pick up when I said you were right! hahaha...well, it seems you had a valid point afterall, and I merely misunderstood!

HAHA! I have misunderstood a lot in this game!! That's the reason I have just started posting recently.

Goodness! You joined a week AFTER me and have 300 posts!!! I have been around for a couple of months reading and just signed up to ask a question. My post have been sparatic since then, but they are becoming more regular.

childofmetis · Post by **childofmetis** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:31 pm

lonelyelendi wrote:Alright, my first theory was that both Jonas and Daniel actually knew that she was leaving and this is a message to someone to tell her that she is on her way.

Going off on that, it is possible that this was a message from Jonas to OpAphid that he had sold her up the river, but that remains unsubstantiated so I will just put that idea out there.

I still think that Bree's dad, being an intelligent man, would have realised what his daughter was doing in her room so much, and would have, at some point, begun watching her videos. That is why I think she was communicating with him when she said "C U SOON."

While Joy made a good point that she may be communicating with someone else, but I still stand firm that the only person who she would logically be saying "see you soon" would be the man she was trying to meet. I say "man she was trying to meet" because, very simply I am not entirely convinced that she would actually find her father when she went to meet the man. I think it might be a play to catch her.

But now I am veering off topic...anywho...what do you guys think?

Wow, those are some good ideas. I think it's reasonable that both of the guys knew she was leaving and this was a confirmation that Bree was on her way. I also think it's likely that they drove her.

That being said, though, I am leaning towards the idea that Bree has been picked up by the Order.

arammat · Post by **arammat** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:34 pm

TheFatLady wrote:You know, I just *can't* see Bree taking money and stuff in the first place, or in the second place doing it without leaving a note or some explanatory clue. This whole thing is out of character. I don't think she left on her own.

I thought they said she left a note.....

lonelyelendi · Post by **lonelyelendi** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:35 pm

joygasm wrote:
lonelyelendi wrote:ROFL! I knew you would pick up when I said you were right! hahaha...well, it seems you had a valid point afterall, and I merely misunderstood!
HAHA! I have misunderstood a lot in this game!! That's the reason I have just started posting recently.

Well, next time I promise to try and be a little more open minded about your ideas, as I now see (well I saw it earlier when we exchanged pm's) that you are indeed a very intelligent woman (at least I am assuming you are a woman, from the name joy xD)

childofmetis wrote:Wow, those are some good ideas. I think it's reasonable that both of the guys knew she was leaving and this was a confirmation that Bree was on her way. I also think it's likely that they drove her.

That being said, though, I am leaning towards the idea that Bree has been picked up by the Order.

I agree that that is a possibility, however, I am refraining from endorsing one singular theory, as in my experience, being definite about anything leads one to be wrong

PS: Thanks for saying I have good ideas ^^

joygasm · Post by **joygasm** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:40 pm

lonelyelendi wrote: Well, next time I promise to try and be a little more open minded about your ideas, as I now see (well I saw it earlier when we exchanged pm's) that you are indeed a very intelligent woman (at least I am assuming you are a woman, from the name joy xD)

I am a woman! If you noticed... I copied your siggy to point out that the little girl in my avatar was NOT me, but my daughter. There is another clue that I am a woman in there.

Thank you for the compliment! I have seen a lot of intelligent people on this board. I think most people who are really involved in this are really intelligent!

lonelyelendi · Post by **lonelyelendi** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:42 pm

joygasm wrote:
lonelyelendi wrote: Well, next time I promise to try and be a little more open minded about your ideas, as I now see (well I saw it earlier when we exchanged pm's) that you are indeed a very intelligent woman (at least I am assuming you are a woman, from the name joy xD)
I am a woman! If you noticed... I copied your siggy to point out that the little girl in my avatar was NOT me, but my daughter. There is another clue that I am a woman in there.

Thank you for the compliment! I have seen a lot of intelligent people on this board. I think most people who are really involved in this are really intelligent!

LOL I just saw you copied my Siggy...aww well, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

Anyways back on topic...which just happens to be you being right!

joygasm · Post by **joygasm** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:46 pm

arammat wrote:
TheFatLady wrote:You know, I just *can't* see Bree taking money and stuff in the first place, or in the second place doing it without leaving a note or some explanatory clue. This whole thing is out of character. I don't think she left on her own.
I thought they said she left a note.....

I thought they said she didn't. Besides. If she left a note, they probably would have said what was in it.

aideen · Post by **aideen** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:57 pm

They said she didn't leave a not or anything

I just realised I broke 100 posts without even knowing

lonelyelendi · Post by **lonelyelendi** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:57 pm

So, I am formulating a new theory:

I no longer think that "C U SOON" was a message to her father, I admit there is more evidence against him watching her videos than there is saying that he has, so that was me reaching to validate my opinion. In light of Joygasm's and butterfly's assertion that she was indeed talking to Jonas and/or Daniel, I have concoted a new theory, which I will explain now, I plan to explain this like I have been taught to explain a physics problem solution, which is to evaluate every possibility and either defend, qualify, or challenge that possibility.

Bree knew she was leaving to go meet her father (or, at least meet someone she believes is her father) regardless of whether or not she is gone, and so is one of Jonas' cars. Thus, I will assume that they went together. Now comes the question of who drove the car? Well, given her history we know that Bree does have very limited experience behind the wall, but we also know that she will go to drastic measures (sneaking out to meet Daniel, and posting the videos in the first place are evidence of this) to do what she believes she has to do. So, therefore I will assume that she is driving the car.

So, I have now reached the conclusion that Bree left with the car, and she was driving it. But we have a hitch; could she not have been kidnapped? Due to the past actions of the order, I will assume she was not kidnapped, but rather left willingly.

Now another hitch; did Jonas and/or Daniel know she was leaving. We know from past videos released by Danielbeast that he tends to overreact when it comes to Bree, and this typical overreaction was not evident in the most recent video. Also, it my belief that most incriminating piece of evidence that supports the conclusion that at the very least Daniel knew Bree planned to leave was the fact that he came in and asked Jonas where Bree was. "Methinks thou doth protest to much." -Shakespeare

Further, I believe that at the end of the video, when he claims he will watch Bree's past videos, he is indicating to us that he did indeed get Bree's message ("C U SOON"), and that he really does know where she is going.

Thank you to Joygasm, and all the others who helped me reach these conclusions ^^!

Phew that was long!