[Video] 10033 - "Gemma [Part V]"

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:19 pm

ohhhmyyygoddd wrote:brothers video is a ford expedition silver

lg15 video is a pewter metallic chevy suburban not the same

well dammit...
they looks damn similar.
are you sure... i mean the screen caps are wierd from the lonelygirl video as the truck was moving so the SUV looks longer then it actually is.

ohhhmyyygoddd · Post by **ohhhmyyygoddd** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:26 pm

lg vid

brother vid

i'm prety damn sure[/img]

mourningbelle · Post by **mourningbelle** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:28 pm

To include two cars (and I consider the one in the lg15 video to be included, because it was in the shot for at least a few seconds. Why would they have kept that shot if we were not supposed to notice it?) that look VERY similar in two related videos on the same day and not have them be the same car wouldn't make much sense. Also, they were both in (or in Brother's case, on) a parking garage. Too many coincidences!

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:31 pm

ok omg..i'll take your word for it...but belle is right...doesn't make much sense why they would use two different cars that look soo similar in two different videos inthe same day tat appear to be in the same place...
and obviously gemma was getting away from something...
maybe the crime scene.

ohhhmyyygoddd · Post by **ohhhmyyygoddd** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:36 pm

imo personally i think that a car may have just driven by and they kept it in...they have no real reason to edit it out they're in a parking garage...cars drive by also im kind of a car guy born and raised
imo the silver suv in the brother video is the car that luv saw brother driving at the one drop the silver expedition her brother chased around

i immediately recognised the lg car as a suburban...its jsut what i saw right away

shifty · Post by **shifty** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:38 pm

mourningbelle wrote:To include two cars (and I consider the one in the lg15 video to be included, because it was in the shot for at least a few seconds. Why would they have kept that shot if we were not supposed to notice it?) that look VERY similar in two related videos on the same day and not have them be the same car wouldn't make much sense. Also, they were both in (or in Brother's case, on) a parking garage. Too many coincidences!

Yeah, I really think that was "Brother." If it was just, coincidently, some random person driving by in a similar SUV, I believe they would have edited it out. They kept it in the video for a reason.

ohhhmyyygoddd · Post by **ohhhmyyygoddd** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:43 pm

best screen cap i could get see the middle of the grill...match that up with the pic i posted above

in the brother video you can clearly see the blue ford oval in the middle of the back end of the truck

if they wanted it to be seen as brothers truck they should have used brothers suv

sorry..i like to be thorough and im stubborn lol

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:46 pm

ok well i'm not going to argue about it. but what i'm suggesting is jsut some random guy in an SUV drove through the shot. But the SUV look similar to the one in Brother's vid...so they edited that clip in for the stories sake, and they might add a little pesazz into the story...

not like they need any now...

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:48 pm

Killthesmiley wrote:ok well i'm not going to argue about it. but what i'm suggesting is jsut some random guy in an SUV drove through the shot. But the SUV look similar to the one in Brother's vid...so they edited that clip in for the stories sake, and they might add a little pesazz into the story...

not like they need any now...

do u really think they wouldnt edit it out and do the scene again if some random person drove through one of the most exciting shots of the series?

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:49 pm

iamcool wrote:
Killthesmiley wrote:ok well i'm not going to argue about it. but what i'm suggesting is jsut some random guy in an SUV drove through the shot. But the SUV look similar to the one in Brother's vid...so they edited that clip in for the stories sake, and they might add a little pesazz into the story...

not like they need any now...
do u really think they wouldnt edit it out and do the scene again if some random person drove through one of the most exciting shots of the series?

arg...your not getting what i'm saying!!!

what i'm saying is while they were filming the stake out, some random buddy drove through the shot with a similar SUV that was in brothers video.
So they though..."hey what a wierd coincidence...brothers new video has a similar SUV....hmmm....wanna roll with it??? we can do 'this', 'this' and this'"

so while editing the video, they took that five second clip, and put it in there for us to notice, so that they can us it as a possibility to add to the sotry.

Caslynn · Post by **Caslynn** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:20 pm

As far as the topic of SUVs goes, I think omg is right.

I think that saying the creators would use the SUV just because it looked similar so they decided to make it Brother is kind of a far reach. They're not the same model, and a Suburban and an Expedition have very different body styles. I don't think the creators would edit it out if it were just a car driving by, because they're in a parking garage and sometimes SUVs do happen to exist. I also think that they would take into consideration the number of people that watch these videos, and would assume that at least a few of us know a thing or two about cars. Omg is pretty well schooled, and I was raised by a mechanic, and we can tell they're different.

A good point to note is that the color of the Suburban different from the color of the Expedition, and it's not a color that's available to an Expedition except with a custom paint job. So to say that one SUV, which is an entirely different color from another SUV is supposed to just look like it, or that they kept it in the video to look like it, is a little unwise to me.

Sorry, I know that's kind of a rambling post, but I kept forgetting my points as I was having them because there were so many I wanted to make.

tiltingwindward · Post by **tiltingwindward** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:25 pm

To depart from the Brother's SUV/not Brother's SUV discussion...I think it's possible that Gemma is playing the double turncoat game. She tried to infiltrate Tachyon's organization via Brother (who was trying to infiltrate her), and the last two Gemma videos from Tachyon and Brother look like she's having second thoughts. In Gemma IV, sound clips were used from OpA's "you failed" VM, and now we see Gemma parking an Order-issue vehicle, jumping a wall, and creeping off down a back alley in a very suspicious manner. Maybe she's just trying to keep any Tachyon/Brother watchers from seeing her leave the hotel, but I think there are other ways that could be done short of alley crawling.

A few more thoughts: What is the deal with that shot of a black suitcase? The fire alarm seems to be code for the catalyst for whatever plan Tachyon has set up, but the suitcase is new, right? And I think Tachyon's use of the phrase "press any key" makes it pretty clear that Brother is the triggerman on this one.

edit: previous post removed because I was talking about the wrong video for this thread.

Caslynn · Post by **Caslynn** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:28 pm

Tilt, I definitely understand your point.

In my opinion, it was Daniel that helped her back to the car. And I was certain they all made it back, because from the looks of things, Daniel was filming from the back seat, which would probably mean that Bree and Jonas were in the front.

I'm open to suggestions, though.

DyPole · Post by **DyPole** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:30 pm

What about the location? Can we find a proof that it's the same parking garage in both videos? And is it at the Hilton?

RiverFleur · Post by **RiverFleur** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:30 pm

Heres my take on the two new videos... I'll just go through them and I'll tell you what I think...

[Gemma Part V]
Gemma was to leave a package inside the building pull the alarm and leave. This 'Brother' character is on top of the parking garage waiting for her, looking through something (maybe it's a sniper gun), we see the letters 'targeting' on the left of the screen.

Then in normal camera mode (meaning not through the sniper lens) we see Gemma jump over the wall, we can see a dark colored car, but I don't think it's relevant. Gemma is constantly looking over her shoulder, like she's getting away from something.
It then get cuts to and away from the sniper mode, and now we see the 'Press ANY Key to fire'. Key? This would imply he's using a computer, since guns have triggers not keys. (Note, Brother has emphasisd the ANY key in his earlier videos)

Then Gemma disappears from the last frames, and an empty alleyway is shown with a brightening light. Hinting, that Brother pressed the ANY key and something happened... but what?

[The Unthinkable Happened]
Jonas and Daniel are steaking out in a busy part of town. They are bored, so Jonas and Daniel start talking about donuts and New Years. Their lighthearted conversation comes to a screeching halt when Daniel see's Bree and her dad (wearing that ridiculous hat we've seen him in before) come around the corner. Bree and her dad sit down and talk for a bit.

Daniel mentions that the dad looks freaked out. So we can safely assume that Bree's father knows that something is afoot. They get in their car and leave, Jonas follows behind. Neither Daniel nor Jonas know where they are.

Bree's dad pulls into the parking garage, followed by Daniel and Jonas. Jonas parks his car in seeing distance of Bree's dad's car... they seem to have left the car, and Daniel and Jonas are waiting for them to return. (The clip with the SUV in question occurs about now, it is meant to be there because we can see that there is a cut before and after, it could have been edited out, but it was left in)

Bree and her dad come back a little later towards there car. (At this point I hear some weird audio, I don't think it's inverted. It sounds like a foreign language... French? Italian? I don't know.) Then a dark colored car comes screeching to a hault right in front of them. Daniel and Jonas run out of the car (cue haunting music), Daniel calls out Bree! Bree runs towards him, while her father appears to attempt to run the same direction as Bree, but is subdued by two, maybe three others. Jonas, who is holding the camera, turns around and runs after the fleeing Daniel and Bree.

We hear a gunshot at this point, Bree screams. But Jonas is shaking the camera around so much we can't see who shot where. Jonas focues the camera back towards where Bree's dad is... but nothing is clear over there. Jonas turns the camera back towards Bree and Daniel. Bree is doubled over... Jonas quickly moves the camera back towards the direction of Bree's dad and we see a single figure looking their way, and he turns back towards the others involved in the scuffle down the way. (Giving the appearance that someone was shooting their way.)

They get in the car and get out of there.

I tried to analyze it as closely as possible, and thats all I got from it...