[Solve] Morse Poem Interpretation and Analysis - Part I

Anduviel · Post by **Anduviel** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:42 am

Kalamitye wrote:As for the moses thing, he parted the red sea... maybe it's a blood reference?

True, in one of the videos Bree is seen with a big bandage on her shoulder - she's obviously draws blood, it couldn't be just a cut from climbing a tree

alonelyguy15 · Post by **alonelyguy15** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:42 am

I logged on this morning expecting to find people still puzzling over anagrams. Instead I found a fully solved poem that went together VERY nicely. I was REALLY confused/impressed, until I realized Cassie gave us the poem in a picture file. TPTB (The Powers That Be) must have realized that many letters are toooo hard to anagram into anything coherent. So, I've been trying to figure out what I think the poem means for the past half hour, and here's my stanza-by-stanza interpretation

Between the virgin and the beast
Bree is virgin and Daniel's beast (duh.) Between B and D is C, for Cassie.u]
moses armed the evil priest,
Something moses did gave the evil priest (Crowley?) power
To kill me with his sword of hate
Cassie is going to be killed by the leader of Bree's occultist ceremony
if help again will come too late.
Unless we come to save her.

Warns Luke Eleven Seventeen
17Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them: "Any kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and a house divided against itself will fall. We need to stick together and go with the flow, not contradict each others' theories.
of dangers now and ever been.
See above...
The cost is not just mine to bear.
Again, we need to work together to help Cassie shoulder her burden. Perhaps darker overtones... we'll die if Cassie dies.We win we live we die we share.
Still trying to figure this one out.

Revelation starts the first,
October first is going to bring us lots and lots of new information
at dawn youll rise to do your worst.
The new info will be there when we wake up for us to interpret
This is not a game or show.
This is serious, so don't treat it like a game (A reference to LG15's "show")
The stakes are high and you must know:
This is serious, and...

The pulse of the doe-eyed child may cease.
Bree might die
But cassie does not rest in peace.
That's not enough to make Cassie happy. We need to do more.

Hope that helps. [/b]

Nos · Post by **Nos** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:42 am

wintermute wrote:
Nos wrote:Okay, here's my nitpicky...

"me" actually doesn't belong in the poem at all. Since the last line refers to Cassie in third person, she wouldn't (logically) have used 'me' anywhere. So what else could it be?

Edit: It also cannot be written from the pov of anyone involved in the story so far, since Bree and Daniel are referred to in the third person. But we assume that Cassie wrote the poem, yes, and is simply refering to herself in third person...as she has done before?
Poetic license, maybe? Just because "me" doesn't belong in there from grammatic standpoint doesn't mean it can't be used.

'mute

True, which is why I said nitpicky. Was just a thought, heh.

That said...I am gunna go collaspe for a bit.

*tired*

Edit: One more nitpicky, from a post above:

Who the heck takes blood from your upper arm/shoulder?

And now...sleep! *snore*

alonelyguy15 · Post by **alonelyguy15** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:44 am

wintermute wrote:
Nos wrote:Okay, here's my nitpicky...

"me" actually doesn't belong in the poem at all. Since the last line refers to Cassie in third person, she wouldn't (logically) have used 'me' anywhere. So what else could it be?

Edit: It also cannot be written from the pov of anyone involved in the story so far, since Bree and Daniel are referred to in the third person. But we assume that Cassie wrote the poem, yes, and is simply refering to herself in third person...as she has done before?
Poetic license, maybe? Just because "me" doesn't belong in there from grammatic standpoint doesn't mean it can't be used.

'mute

Exactly. I think that's looking a bit too much into it.

Kalamitye · Post by **Kalamitye** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:45 am

"The cost is not just mine to bear.
We win we live we die we share. "

Maybe the outcome of the ritual or the situation is supposed to have some sort of massive effect. Like she's trying to save everyone, not just Bree.

Anduviel · Post by **Anduviel** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:46 am

Who the heck takes blood from your upper arm/shoulder?

Yeah, have to agree on that one... My guess is that so WE could see it. So it will in the camera frame - the shoulder... you know, so the audience would notice it.

But from WHERE do you exactly drawthe blood? from your finger... I don't think there is a lot in there...

dlruss0216 · Post by **dlruss0216** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:46 am

spaciegirl wrote:
"Between the virgin and the beast"

=

Between Bree and Daniel

=

Between B and D

=

C

=

Cassie

Oh! That's good! I wonder is this was intentional when Cassie "named" herself (or when Bree did since she said it first)? Or, maybe Cassie realized after the initiation of this that she was between them (i.e. C is between B and D) and then used that thought in her poem. Hmmm...

TehSpectre · Post by **TehSpectre** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:46 am

" moses armed the evil priest, "

Moses being a patriarch > Father figure > Bree's Dad

Armed the evil priest > Giving Bree over to the cult.

Bree's Dad gave her over to the cult.

My take at least.

Brooklyn · Post by **Brooklyn** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:47 am

Started researching history of sacrafice...

Guess where it may be questioned to start out from? Cassandra.

Cassandra was the daughter of Priam and Hecuba, king and Queen of Troy at the time of the Trojan war. Coroebus came to Troy to marry Cassandra, and was killed, according to the more popular account, by Neoptolemus, but according to the poet Lescheos, by Diomedes.

Cassandra was one of the most beautiful women in the world at that time. She was also a priestess and a prophetess. Apollo had made her a prophetess because he admired her, but she later refused his advances. He then made it so no one believed her. It was she who recognized that Paris was Alexandros, lost son of Priam. She also recognized the true meaning of the Trojan horse, but no one believed her when she said the horse contained soldiers of the enemy.

During the sack of Troy she took refuge in the temple of Athena and there embraced the statue of Athena. The lesser Ajax came and ripped her away and raped her, thus creating a great sacrilege. The pictures of Cassandra often illustrate this scene. Her nakedness references her inferiority. This act was not taken litely by Athena who punished the entire Greek Army with the loss of thousands of men. Athena asked Zeus to bring a storm to disperse and sink the Greek ships when they returned home. Cassandra was a very tragic figure who never received any recognition. Ultimately she was murdered by Clytemnestra as the consort of Agamemnon to whom she had been enslaved as a prize of war. She could be viewed as a symbol for the intelligent women in society.

There are records of human sacrifice in the ancient Greek culture in historic times. But the Greeks believed in the force of law and they became to believe that human sacrifice was not desirable. But sacrifice was a part of their religious practice and human sacrifice had been practiced in the past. The result is that myths included stories of human sacrifice. The Locrians sent many virgin girls to their ritual deaths to make up for the rape of Cassandra.

Anduviel · Post by **Anduviel** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:49 am

Bree's Dad gave her over to the cult.

This really DOES make sense because Bree said in her video that HER parents won't be able to attend the ceremony.

they're giving her to the cult - sacrafice?

dlruss0216 · Post by **dlruss0216** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:49 am

Anduviel wrote:Maybe...I think I heard it somewhere already.

Between Bree and Daniel refers to Bree's parents, or particulary her dad.

which can be reffered to as "moses" in the poem. and that's why "moses" is not capitalized.

just a thought.

this is so interesting

Could they be synonyms, i.e. Moses and Father? Was Moses a father? Sorry, religiously ignorant here.

EDIT - TecSpectre - I swear I typed this before reading your post...lol. You're just a faster typer

Jengels2002 · Post by **Jengels2002** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:49 am

Number 11:17

King James Version (the one Cassie used)

And I will come down and talk with thee there: and I will take of the spirit which is upon thee, and will put it upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with thee, that thou bear it not thyself alone.

alonelyguy15 · Post by **alonelyguy15** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:50 am

Kalamitye wrote:"The cost is not just mine to bear.
We win we live we die we share. "

Maybe the outcome of the ritual or the situation is supposed to have some sort of massive effect. Like she's trying to save everyone, not just Bree.

Oh I don't think so at all. My take on it is that the outcome of the ritual (the cost) is Cassie's death.

Between the virgin and the beast
moses armed the evil priest,
To kill me with his sword of hate
if help again will come too late.

To kill me with his sword of hate. The evil priest is going to kill "me", or Cassie. That's the ultimate cost. She's saying it's not hers to bear, which means the rest of us are going to SHARE. (we die we share).

Anduviel · Post by **Anduviel** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:54 am

alonelyguy15 wrote:
To kill me with his sword of hate. The evil priest is going to kill "me", or Cassie. That's the ultimate cost. She's saying it's not hers to bear, which means the rest of us are going to SHARE. (we die we share).

Again, it was mentioned before, that 'me' cannot refer to Cassie, because at the end she talks in third person about herself

"But cassie does not rest in peace"

alonelyguy15 · Post by **alonelyguy15** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:57 am

Anduviel wrote:
alonelyguy15 wrote:
To kill me with his sword of hate. The evil priest is going to kill "me", or Cassie. That's the ultimate cost. She's saying it's not hers to bear, which means the rest of us are going to SHARE. (we die we share).
Again, it was mentioned before, that 'me' cannot refer to Cassie, because at the end she talks in third person about herself

"But cassie does not rest in peace"

And again, it shall be mentioned that POETIC LICENSE is a popular tool for POETS. It doesn't have to make grammatic sense.

You really think Cassie would post a poem written by Bree? Bree's dad? Daniel? No! Cassie wrote it.

*Shakes fist*