0110 "My Dad Said..." [1/5/07]

angie78gg · Post by **angie78gg** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:35 am

jenlight wrote: Also, I'm trying to make this fit Buffy The Vampire Slayer but there's no Giles!

Would have been great... I use to watch Buffy all the time.

kristina · Post by **kristina** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:07 am

Okay, I have a little theory here. Keep in mind, I am new, foreign, and this is my very first post, so bear with me here.

I've been reading through the posts here, and quite a lot of people are mentioning that Bree and Jonas might be siblings.
Here's what I'm thinking:

Remember when Daniel and Jonas were following Bree and her 'dad'?
Jonas kept asking Daniel if he were sure that was her dad, as if he could not believe it.
What if Jonas recognized Bree's 'dad', and that is why he reacted with disbelief.
What if Bree's 'dad' is in fact Jonas' father?

blahblablee · Post by **blahblablee** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:34 am

Oh man I so started all the Star Wars talk

So now we have to wait another 2 days for another video...

Joyleaf · Post by **Joyleaf** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:00 am

I don't think that the recognition (if that's what Jonas was expressing by asking about her dad in that vid) has to do with Bree's dad being his dad.

Jonas's parents disappeared 6 years ago. Bree's lived a sheltered life with her parents homeschooling her and keeping her on a pretty short leash, it would seem. Additionally, her family's been moving all around the world in the course of her short life.

I just can't imagine that Bree's dad found time in the middle of all of that to raise another kid elsewhere, who seems to have been living in California for some time. Also, if all those trophies in Jonas's house are his dad's, then his dad was pretty kicked-back into life wherever they were living.

I think that whatever Jonas saw when he saw Bree's father, it wasn't his own father.

I do, however, think he might have recognized Bree's dad, or was not expecting to see the man he saw. (See previous posts below.)

Joyleaf wrote:Do we want to mention the foreshadowing?

In the "Unthinkable" vid--Jonas: "Are you sure that's her dad?"

I thought that was reasonable enough to say in a heightened situation where they were fearing for Bree's safety, but Jonas also has an uncanny ability to drop phrases (and the occasional video clip) that have further significance.

So did Jonas a) recognize Bree's dad, b) expect Bree's dad to look different than the man he was seeing, c) know more about Bree's past than she did, or d) just say something eerily coincedental?

Joyleaf wrote:Bree and Jonas don't strike me as having much in the way of sibling resemblance.

However, I'm willing to bet that we find out that Jonas has some very interesting links, and that there are pretty specific reasons why he has information that the rest of us don't seem to have. I'm very curious.

kristina · Post by **kristina** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:06 am

Joyleaf wrote:I don't think that the recognition (if that's what Jonas was expressing by asking about her dad in that vid) has to do with Bree's dad being his dad.

Jonas's parents disappeared 6 years ago. Bree's lived a sheltered life with her parents homeschooling her and keeping her on a pretty short leash, it would seem. Additionally, her family's been moving all around the world in the course of her short life.

I just can't imagine that Bree's dad found time in the middle of all of that to raise another kid elsewhere, who seems to have been living in California for some time. Also, if all those trophies in Jonas's house are his dad's, then his dad was pretty kicked-back into life wherever they were living.

I think that whatever Jonas saw when he saw Bree's father, it wasn't his own father.

I do, however, think he might have recognized Bree's dad, or was not expecting to see the man he saw. (See previous posts below.)

Joyleaf wrote:Do we want to mention the foreshadowing?

In the "Unthinkable" vid--Jonas: "Are you sure that's her dad?"

I thought that was reasonable enough to say in a heightened situation where they were fearing for Bree's safety, but Jonas also has an uncanny ability to drop phrases (and the occasional video clip) that have further significance.

So did Jonas a) recognize Bree's dad, b) expect Bree's dad to look different than the man he was seeing, c) know more about Bree's past than she did, or d) just say something eerily coincedental?

Joyleaf wrote:Bree and Jonas don't strike me as having much in the way of sibling resemblance.

However, I'm willing to bet that we find out that Jonas has some very interesting links, and that there are pretty specific reasons why he has information that the rest of us don't seem to have. I'm very curious.

ah, you're probably right! i had a feeling it was a bit far-fetched. :p

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:16 am

kristina wrote: Here's what I'm thinking:

Remember when Daniel and Jonas were following Bree and her 'dad'?
Jonas kept asking Daniel if he were sure that was her dad, as if he could not believe it.
What if Jonas recognized Bree's 'dad', and that is why he reacted with disbelief.
What if Bree's 'dad' is in fact Jonas' father?

I've always thought that Bree and Jonas seemed more like siblings than love interests...they play and have fun like brother/sisters. But anyways, I don't think Jonas recognized her 'dad'...i think that he just didn't know him..and maybe he thought her 'dad' didn't look like the 'dad' type.

If it was his dad, i'm pretty sure he would have said DUDE THATS MY DAD...i'm sure jonas has photos of his parents around his house, too. Bree would definately recognize her dad as his dad. Perhaps you are on the right trail though, that Bree and Jonas share the same parents.

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:20 am

Joyleaf · Post by **Joyleaf** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:32 am

kristina wrote:ah, you're probably right! i had a feeling it was a bit far-fetched. :p

I don't think things being far-fetched is any reason to exclude them from examination. I mean, check the context--far-fetched gets a good workout in this storyline.

Joyleaf · Post by **Joyleaf** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:43 am

nobackspacebutton wrote:I've always thought that Bree and Jonas seemed more like siblings than love interests...they play and have fun like brother/sisters. But anyways, I don't think Jonas recognized her 'dad'...i think that he just didn't know him..and maybe he thought her 'dad' didn't look like the 'dad' type. If it was his dad, i'm pretty sure he would have said DUDE THATS MY DAD...i'm sure jonas has photos of his parents around his house, too. Bree would definately recognize her dad as his dad. Perhaps you are on the right trail though, that Bree and Jonas share the same parents.

The photos are a really good point--Jonas seems to live whatever persona pretty out in the open, and even if the story of his parents' disappearance is a bit fishy (no pun intended) I wouldn't be surprised if there's still plenty of photographic evidence of their existence and appearance throughout his home.

The relationship between Bree and Jonas is interesting, though--he strikes me as being pretty benevolent, concerned and protective (though protective of a different bent than Daniel). He seems to do this in a fashion completely devoid of romantic interest, which I find very interesting. What kind of random boy on the internet offers a pretty girl in distress a no-strings opportunity for her and her dude friend to come live with him--especially when they are on the run from some scary people who've done a pretty good job of tracking them down?

I guess the best and most hopeful answer is: the kind of random boy on the internet we need more of.

But if he's not just a super-caring, generous random, then who is he? And if he knows things we don't, does he know them from the goodies or the baddies? Hmmm....

wh_pirate · Post by **wh_pirate** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:52 am

So, everyone is shooting down the thought of Bree and Jonas having the same dad. Did anyone think of them having the same mom?

Maybe the pictures are of his dad and his unnatural mom. His dad had a relationship with "mom" and she wanted to take the baby off to some freaky religion and dad refused. Dad took the baby and found someone else who became Jonas' mom.

Just something that popped into my head.

AM · Post by AM » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:24 pm

I too had the thought that Bree and Jonas could be siblings and that their relationship seems more brotherly/sisterly than love interest. It is possible that the couple who disappeared sailing are Bree's real parents. I also think Jonas has more of a connection to Bree than we know. I think he knows more than he has let on. The Loveline reference, the Back to the Future reference, the little hints he drops here and there.

I also think the connection between all the disappearances will shortly be explained. Soon we will find a connection between all the people who disappeared (Tach's family, Jonas's parents, Bree's real parents, Bree's 'adoptive' parents) and why they vanished.

It's time now for pieces of the puzzle to start coming together. We need at least some answers to keep us interested.

Kudos to all the posters who suspected all along that Brees parents were not her real parents.

Joyleaf · Post by **Joyleaf** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:25 pm

Okay... Thinking back to the baby-stealing discussions in the beginning of this thread... And I don't feel like this is what happened, but it could be conceivable that Jonas's parents were Bree's biological parents, and that she was taken from them for the sake of being reared for the sake of the ceremony, being raised by the parents she knew as her own.

In that scenario, it could be possible that Jonas's parents were gotten rid of. Bree's what, 16? 17? Jonas's age is listed as 19. His parents would have disappeared when he was around 13 (if I'm remembering the interval since their disappearance correctly).

Sooo... The age difference works for siblings. And he might have even been old enough to have a memory of the guy who took his sister, if he ever saw him--or if the family knew him.

However--why would his parents have been left alive for another 10 years? That leaves a massive gap (at least by my thinking) in this theory.

I don't think that this is what happened, personally. It just seems like the most plausible way that they could be siblings, and it still seems pretty implausible when you add into how Jonas and Bree found each other. I'm keeping my money on theories about Jonas's unique access to information, rather than the family ties stuff. I think he's connected to something else.

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:28 pm

during that 10 year gap it oculd be possible that they just couldn't find bree...then they did which is why they were killed.

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:30 pm

what about tach? could that be bree's sister?

lookinginonyou · Post by **lookinginonyou** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:53 pm

bethy wrote:Bree's mother is pregnant! She delivers and they raise Bree as their own...even though genetically, she isn't related to them one bit. Bree's mother knows, but her father doesn't. They never have any more children, because it might become apparent that Bree doesn't quite look like the other kids.

She wouldn't look like her "siblings" OR her parents!! Is that why we never see them in the videos?? We've never seen "dad's" face or any part of mom.