0119 "Hungover" [01/22/07]

cynicar · Post by **cynicar** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:50 am

autumneternal wrote:
JayHank wrote:Or maybe the reason Daniel didn't post the video sooner is that he was watching the conference championships all day.
Could be that exactly. I think the point is that there's probably a reasonable explanation for this and not a secret one.

Well, the creators know we nitpick. I'd like to think we're not so cruel as to lead us on, but I know I couldn't resist the temptation if I were in their shoes.

That said, the fact that the Superbowl coincides with the date we've pulled from the card hands (2/4/07) does make it stick out to me. Daniel's fake ID seems similarly important, but I can't think of how it would be. Maybe the Order could ask around for Daniel inside and find McPhee's character? Thereby leading them getting Jonas's address and phone number?

I think I just answered my own question. Whoops.

Aja · Post by **Aja** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:57 am

Did anyone else catch when Daniel dropped the name "Pins & Pints"? Wouldn't you think if you were hiding out that you would be more careful to NOT mention any names of places you've been? I too agree that losing his fake ID is going to come back to bite him, especially since he announced where he was!

Does anyone know more about Pins & Pints? Do you think we could figure out where it is and therefore figure out where Jonas lives? I imagine that if we can do it, the Order surely can.

gigglingmonk · Post by **gigglingmonk** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:06 am

Aja wrote:Did anyone else catch when Daniel dropped the name "Pins & Pints"? Wouldn't you think if you were hiding out that you would be more careful to NOT mention any names of places you've been? I too agree that losing his fake ID is going to come back to bite him, especially since he announced where he was!

Does anyone know more about Pins & Pints? Do you think we could figure out where it is and therefore figure out where Jonas lives? I imagine that if we can do it, the Order surely can.

Well the name was already mentioned in "Truth or Dare", so he probably thought it was fine to mention it. Besides, just be saying "Pins and Pints" doesn't mean that the Order is going to go "wait, theres only one house near that place....thats where they are!!" or anything. Since we already searched for it and the only Pins and Pints, besides being owned by a character in some movie(can't remember title right now) was in NY or something, I don't think its a big deal. Also, I think because of how the order didn't chase Bree in "The Unthinkable Happened", Bree and the gang feel a bit more secure..if they didn't run after her when they were so close, why would they now try to find her, thus wasting precious researching time on something like that?

kellylen · Post by **kellylen** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:17 am

lonelyelendi wrote:Yea, it being fake would mean it only had his pic, fake name and the rest.

not true.

my fake has my real name, my real pic, and my actual birthday with just the year changed

solrac_krad · Post by **solrac_krad** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:28 am

I love Jonas hahahaha, cool character
Cool video
Its weird, the ID thing really stoof out

niugirl22 · Post by **niugirl22** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:51 am

As a Chicagoan, I am loving the grossman tag on this vid.

I heart Rex!

bethy · Post by **bethy** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:07 am

Random Girl has his ID...because sh'es a watcher and she INFILTRATED Jonas' house.

immortal1 · Post by **immortal1** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:24 am

GoodGollyItsHolly wrote:I will bet money on OpAphid holding daniels fake id in her next video.. what do you guys think.. I mean they totally set that up.

Nikki B will find the ID!

aideen · Post by **aideen** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:43 am

oooooh! Maybe

And this is really weird, only 4 pages?

AM · Post by AM » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:23 am

I actually think this video told us a lot.

His losing his ID reminded me of the Thanksgiving video when they were hiking and Bree realized she lost her room key. I got a definite sense of foreboding and a definite sense that it will come back to bite him. I think Holly is right and we will see OP holding it at some point.

Other significant things in this video are Daniel's changing feelings for Bree.

I think Bree's probably pissed at me. I'm not really sure. I don't really care; she can do whatever she wants now, just... whatever.

and

andI'll tell you one thing, though. It's, uh... it's good to realize that Bree isn't the only girl in town.

So, this is a major turning point in their relationship and it will be interesting to see how it affects their future interactions with eachother. Will he leave?(I'd say no) Will their friendship grow stronger or be more strained?

I saw some people speculating that once he's 'over' her she will begin to chase him. Dunno about that. When I was a teen and even older, if I had a guy friend who had a crush on me (and the feelings weren't reciprocated) it was a complete relief to me when he moved on. Bree did not mince any words in her 'Daniel's a liar' video. I think it is sheer fantasy on some of the fan's part that she really wants him after all.

Shame because I think a lot of fans (including me) were holding out for a Bree and Daniel romance. IMO not likely to happen any time soon.

gogo · Post by **gogo** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:45 am

I thought Daniel "bragging" and impressed with himself that the girl "went home" with him while he had a face full of prankster's marker was pretty sadly funny. He had that same "and then she kissed me" look in his eye. He is definitely oblivious to his drunken behavior and the fact that the girlie spent her time playing cards and truth or dare with Jonas and Bree. I'm surprised the name of this video wasn't "Hot Girl Came Home with Me..."

As for the fake ID, I'm sure it will come up, but it is fake. It would be disspointing if a fake ID leads anyone to a real place (like Jonas's house). If Jonas's community is so small, and these kids are "on the run," and they mentioned Pin and Pints by name (non-typical name for a bar especially in the US where folks don't use the term pints for beer as much as folks do in, say, Europe) and Jonas's stolen car (undoubtedly with his registrtion info inside) was left at the parking garage, our hereos should be rather easy to find. Especially by such a powerful order of sinister adults.

As for "clues," I only recall the shots in the arm and the phone number to the dry cleaners actually working out. Unless the cast of lonelygirl15 are going to show up with Prince at the half-time show, I can't see the superbowl date being anything more than the superbowl date. Call me a humbug, if you will...

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:39 am

I agree with Holly. Perhaps OpAphid will have his fake ID in her next video...maybe the randomgirl wasn't as innocent as we think. Although, I'd still place my bets that randomgirl was on the good side--she rescued Daniel and got him home safe--something someone under Tach's commission might do.

I still think her main purpose was to make Bree jealous though..like Daniel mentions "its nice to know that bree isn't the only girl in town". I mean, obviously he knew that litterally there are other girls in town, but I guess this boosted his self esteem and he realised he doesn't have to just wait around for Bree--if he wanted a girl, he could probably go find one.

Jezz · Post by **Jezz** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:01 am

To be honest, there´s not really much one could do with someones else´s fake ID. Seeing as it´s...fake.
I think he mentioned it to shut all the "How could he drink?! It´s 21 in USA" "OH Jonas lives in Canaaaada" - people up.

I really think that´s all, and the whole point of this video was to have us laugh at the drawings in his face. And fair enough, worked for me.

Beautiful Nightmare · Post by **Beautiful Nightmare** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:32 am

My fake ID had my real name, real address, real date of birth (with the year changed, obviously) and my real picture. The reason is so that if someone quizzes you, you already know the answers.

So, just because it was a "fake" ID doesn't mean that the information on it was "fake".

But, of course, Oppy knows where Daniel lives, anyway....so who cares if she finds his ID, real or fake?

impulse · Post by **impulse** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:34 am

kellylen wrote: my fake has my real name, my real pic, and my actual birthday with just the year changed

Hey look, I'm underage, I have a fake ID, and I'm so proud of myself!

I see a bright future for you in the death row Jersey girl!

Fraudulent use of birth certificates, driver's licenses, etc.

- It is illegal to use another's identification as one's own.
- It is illegal to possess or sell an ID for the purpose of establishing a false identification.
- Persons who possess, use or distribute fake IDs are charged with a Class 1 misdemeanor. If the document is used to purchase a firearm, the charges increase to a Class 6 felony.

Facsimile or manufacture, sale, etc., or possession of fictitious, simulated official license or identification.

- It is illegal to possess, produce or distribute a falsified document that can be mistaken as an official government document.
- Violators face Class 1 misdemeanor charges for the sale or production of such ID and Class 2 misdemeanor charges for possession of such ID.

Fraudulent use of driver's license or Department of Motor Vehicles identification card to obtain alcoholic beverages.

- Any underage person found using a falsified DMV driver's license or military or university identification card to purchase alcoholic beverages faces conviction of a Class 3 misdemeanor.
- Convicted individuals may lose their driver's license for thirty days to one year.

Purchasing or possessing alcoholic beverages unlawful in certain cases.

- It is illegal for anyone under 21 to possess any alcoholic beverage.
- No one under 21 may use an altered or fake ID such as a driver's license, birth certificate or student identification card to establish a false identification or false age to purchase an alcoholic beverage.
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