My Helper [9.28.06]

Luv2Luvem · Post by **Luv2Luvem** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:51 am

I couldn't make out anything on the books.

Edit: Hmm Bree logged onto YouTube an hour ago, but the vid is still not up.

calphilips · Post by **calphilips** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:57 am

shortyb · Post by **shortyb** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:17 am

Hello!

As many newcomers to this site - I also have been lurking for some time and tried to resist the intensity that is the lg15 world.

I find it fascinating mostly because about a year ago I happened upon a Japanese film titled All About Lily Chou-Chou. The concept of the movie was generated by the concept of an online novel by Shunji Iwai where he created this plotline of a singer named Lily Chou-chou and the teenagers that were affected by her music and the "ether" in which her inspiration came from.

The production of the concept of this movie was revolutionary because it allowed the viewers to post their ideas alongside the character descriptions. There was a website created for this titled Lilyholic - very similar to this website where Shunji got many of his ideas - which I speculate is simlilar to what is happening with this forum. (if you google All about Lily Chou-chou you'll get the wiki breakdown of it - though I'm sure it doesn't do it justice) This movie was only released in one cinema in all of the US - and that was in NYC.

I was completly enthralled by this movie. It was so surreal and beautiful ( as much of Japanese cinema is) and I felt very drawn to the LG15 plot as a result of my experience with this movie.

I didn't think much of everything until this recent video. And to be honest - compared to everything the producers have done up until now - it seemed very contrived and almost too fake. I know they are probably taking all your hard work and sleuthing into consideration - but it seemed too obvious.

It almost felt like they were mocking all of you who have worked so hard( as I've observed). part of why I was so apprehensive in joining was b/c I didnt think I had much to contribute to the decoding of things.

All I can say is from my heart and instinct of this fictional voyage is - I'm feeling much less connected to Bree and more connected to the plight of Cassie and Daniel. She seemed really selfish and brainwashed to me in this last installment - which may be the whole point.

But - I appluad you all for your hard work and will try to lend a hand when I feel I can!

unlimite-dj · Post by **unlimite-dj** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:32 am

Well, I don't know if anybody brought this up, and I didn't ant to check all 11 pages, but she never said that Lucy was her couselor. In fact she seperated the two in the conversation. Atleast thats my opinion.

lordgreystoke422 · Post by **lordgreystoke422** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:30 am

spaciegirl wrote:You know, the thing is this: someone (Daniel or anyone) needs to point out that the only people Bree has contact with are her fellow Thelemites(?). I am certain her little helper is one of them. That is not healthy. She's very isolated. Even if her religion is harmless (which it's totally not...she was SCARED? about the ceremony), you should have more friends than she does. This whole situation is shady. She needs Daniel to make sure she's ok.

Right..she doesn't even have friends within her own religion.. She's a counselor at their summer camp but still no friends...be they male or female.

lordgreystoke422 · Post by **lordgreystoke422** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:42 am

khjq wrote:I know I should post this under asorted videos and acounts, but I said wth, I just came across this on Revver. I got scared.......

http://one.revver.com/watch/70042/format/flv

That SUCKED....they filmed a friggin book for 2 minutes. Even with Revver's better quality I don't think the page could be made out if blown up.

lordgreystoke422 · Post by **lordgreystoke422** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:45 am

Mirage wrote:-ahem-

You know what they say about boys with long noses.

(still searching for this oxen story!)

Their nose holds more snot?

lordgreystoke422 · Post by **lordgreystoke422** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:48 am

sungurl wrote:not sure if y'all read what I wrote, but any thoughts that the new friend's name is Lucy....short for "lucifer" ??????

I thought that was a good observation..but lets not have Sfonzarelli post a 20 page disertation on the break down of what Lucifer means...
It means "light bringer" essentially..with light being knowledge.

lordgreystoke422 · Post by **lordgreystoke422** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:56 am

SippyGirl wrote:One thing that I find odd is that there was a MySpace bulletin alerting me to this new video. Since when have they done that before?

Since they are broke and are trying to make some jingle.
By the way..have you guys been clicking the ads after you watch the video on revver? Jess is gettin thin...been skipping too many meals..she needs lunch money!!!

900degrees · Post by **900degrees** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:13 am

This has probably already been said, but I don't have time right now, to read through all of the thread.

In the swimming video, Bree says she can't remember what Cassie looked like, now she says, Cassie came over to her house often. You never forget how someone looked you hung out with for like 1 or 2 years.

Plus she was in Daniel's class, but he acts like he's never heard of her.

2 possible theories in my opinion:

1. Bree has a split personality and Cassie and her are indeed the same person. I don't think so, because I am sure, Daniel knows/knew Cassie. Because when Bree asks him about her for the second time in the Swimming video, he goes like "Why would you even bring her up?". Would you say that if someone just asked you about someone they knew and in their opinion, you knew, too?
To me, this sounds more like "Uh... err... let's change the subject."

2. Cassie got somehow involved with Bree's religion, at least far enough to be freaked out by it. Now she's gone. Bree doesn't even remember what she looked like, although the last time they met was only like 2 years ago. I think something happened to Cassie and Bree was brainwashed to make her forget her.
And although I don't think that Daniel is the Bad Guy(TM), I am pretty sure he knows something about it. That's probably also the reason why he is following Bree, not because he's a crazy ass stalker, but because he's incredibly worried.

S is for Summer · Post by **S is for Summer** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:21 am

lordgreystoke422 wrote:By the way..have you guys been clicking the ads after you watch the video on revver? Jess is gettin thin...been skipping too many meals..she needs lunch money!!!

I do, but only when I'm actually interested in what the ads say. From Revver's FAQ:

Can I encourage people to click on my ads so I can make money?

No. Revver advertisers pay based on clicks on their advertising, on the assumption that people who click on their advertisements are interested in their products or services. If users are encouraged to click on advertising irrespective of whether the product or service is of interest to them, then these clicks are of much lower value to advertisers. This will eventually mean less money for video makers as Revver will no longer be able to negotiate a reasonable cost per click with advertisers. Consequently, this policy protects both advertisers and our makers and sharers.

I'm really impressed with the whole Revver idea, and definitely want to support both it and LG15. But I think, since they specifically ask for it in this way, I'm going to try to stick to it and not just click to click. I'm not certain how they (Revver or, more importantly, the advertisers) would decide that the clicks they were getting weren't from actual interest, but I have a few simple, nonexpert guesses.

At any rate, they specifically ask people not to just click through for the sake of clicking, and not to encourage people to do that, so. The best way to support them, I would think, would be to do as they ask.

Just wanted to say that.

Post by **Broken Kid** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:27 am

I love this site...fascinating to see everyone's theories and then re-evaluate my own... Just some thoughts:

As to the oxen analogy, I think it could be taken two ways. If the strength is in faith, then Bree's the stronger one. If it's in physical presence and personality, then Daniel's the stronger one... I find the dichotomy interesting.

As for Cassie, I think people are holding too tightly to the theorizing from this board and getting upset that the Creators didn't follow the storyline the fans lay out. I suspect that's done on purpose. Whether or not the Creators are involved with cassieiswatching, they have said it's not related to the LG15 storyline, so I believe this video is their attempt to keep LG15 from going in that dark a direction.

And to placate the fans somewhat - who are surely crushed by the Cassie direction - they threw in the message to Daniel about following her. That's probably completely based on all the posts that said "Yikes, Daniel's a stalker now! How creepy that he follows her!"

Of course, I could be wrong. I'm sure most people believe I am due to the Cassie theories. I just think it's the Creators trying to reign that in and keep ciw separate from LG15.

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:02 am

I think I know why Bree claimed not to remember how Cassie looks like in the swimming vid.

As mentioned by both Bree and Daniel; Bree takes things WAY too seriously.
If Cassie stopped calling Bree, Bree would get hurt.
When people are hurt, they sometimes pretend to don't care. Like saying she doesen't remember how she looked, like she didn't really care.

And to Daniel's nose. The dude has a big nose, so what, he's still pretty (Hi Yousef!). Youtuberhaters says it all the time.

S is for Summer · Post by **S is for Summer** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:04 am

Sami wrote:I think I know why Bree claimed not to remember how Cassie looks like in the swimming vid.

As mentioned by both Bree and Daniel; Bree takes things WAY too seriously.
If Cassie stopped calling Bree, Bree would get hurt.
When people are hurt, they sometimes pretend to don't care. Like saying she doesen't remember how she looked, like she didn't really care.

Yes! I agree with that, and haven't been able to think how to say it.

sweetie55 · Post by **sweetie55** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:22 am

Hey there. Long time lurker, first time poster. I believe that Bree may be hiding what EXACTLY happened to Cassie or that maybe her parents had something to do with her not calling or visiting Bree anymore. In this video, Bree says that Cassie got freaked out by her religion. I think she found out something Daniel doesn't know about her religion that outsiders are forbidden to know about and something bad happened....or not. hehe I don't know.

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