logic issues with cliffhangers

Terryfic · Post by **Terryfic** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:04 pm

I totally agree with your point Playtpusrex. The issue is not that there are cliffhangers, but it is how they are written in. These cliffhangers don’t work as they would already be resolved by the time the video was uploaded. The problem is the writers are not writing for this format, they are trying to cram a traditional story structure into a format where it isn’t appropriate. They can still have cliffhangers in the story, just not ones written like these ones.

I have a similar issue with them adding overdramatic music to some scenes (like fleeing the Order) it is something someone trying to make a movie would do, but not someone sharing their real life would as it sort of trivialises your life to present it as a scene from a movie. But that is all off topic.

As far as this not being a vlog any more, well I just don’t think that is true. I think they are breaking a lot of the rules of how that genre should be made, but that doesn’t mean they are not still making a mock-vlog show. I think it is really a shame that they don’t seem to be trying harder to embrace the vlog elements of the show. I always thought the ability to use the music, editing, and a single perspective to further develop the characters was one of the things that gave this series the potential to tell a story in a unique way.

EliCash · Post by **EliCash** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:36 pm

Actually, I would say that not only is the idea of that VERY rational, it is also VERY possible and plausible... do you know much about secret organizations/religions/cults at all?

Yeah, they've infiltrated our government and are taking over the world... somehow I forgot.

Nut.

basicly, no sane person would ever leave us with such cliffhangers as the episode where bree's dad dies and the episode where jonas starts driving into "the mountians"

They said they'd keep us updated, so I don't think it's illogical for them to keep us updated.

platypusrex256 · Post by **platypusrex256** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:04 pm

EliCash, you just dont get it. please refer to Terryfic's statement above because it pretty much recaps my statement in a way that even you might understand.

essentialy its not a story issue. its a presentation issue. as a communications major at a private university, i tend to notice stuff like this and it just gets on my nerves.

EliCash · Post by **EliCash** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:34 am

as a communications major at a private university, i tend to notice stuff like this and it just gets on my nerves.

As a communications major? Are you kidding me? So you're a child in school and that's supposed to impress me?

Oh, wait, no... it's the fact that you're at a "private" university? Sorry, but nobody is wowed by that one. One day you'll learn that after college nobody really cares about those things.

Going to college is great. Certainly I'm glad I went/graduated. But your ridiculous attempt at flaunting that like it's supposed to impress me just comes off as you being a jackass. Of what relevance is it that you go to a "private" university?

Let's see some of your brilliant work. Because once you get out into the real world, you'll discover people care much more about that than whether you went to a "private" university.

I could mock the "communications" major pretty easily, but my brother was a communications major and even though it's easy, I have no problem with it. Just because a major is easy doesn't mean it is deserving of less respect. However, I can say with certainty that the major certainly doesn't make you any more an "expert" than anybody here.

Danielle · Post by **Danielle** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:22 am

flamewars ftl

EliCash · Post by **EliCash** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:24 am

I agree. At the same time, he insulted me and I felt I should respond.

Danielle · Post by **Danielle** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:31 am

eh, too many of these have ruined decent threads. Look at the delete bin... the amount of flame in there is crazy.

everyone is antsy because its the winter blues.

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:01 am

Back to the discussion anyone?

voyboy · Post by **voyboy** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:18 am

I have been saying for a while now, that I could care less if how or where the video was uploaded. I mean...lets say there comes a time in the series that they get captured or something. Are we not to see a video because a camera was out of their reach? Or had no access to the internet?

Heck No!

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:20 am

voyboy wrote:I have been saying for a while now, that I could care less if how or where the video was uploaded. I mean...lets say there comes a time in the series that they get captured or something. Are we not to see a video because a camera was out of their reach? Or had no access to the internet?

Heck No!

Which is just about what I'm assuming is happening right now..lol.

voyboy · Post by **voyboy** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:12 pm

nobackspacebutton wrote:
voyboy wrote:I have been saying for a while now, that I could care less if how or where the video was uploaded. I mean...lets say there comes a time in the series that they get captured or something. Are we not to see a video because a camera was out of their reach? Or had no access to the internet?

Heck No!
Which is just about what I'm assuming is happening right now..lol.

oh sweet BA...I hope not lol. I dont want to wait a week before I get my 1-2min fix of LG!

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:20 pm

on top of that a lot of cities/towns/states (in general) in the USA literally have wireless internet everywheres. You could walk down the street with your laptop and surf the web.
This is to accomidate the recent growth in the technologies like RIM's Blackberry and HP IPaq and te new Apple Iphone. It's kind of like the warwalking video.
if you want a rational response to how and where they are posting the videos, consider that a lot of states have regional wireless internet systems set up, as well as hotels.

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:37 pm

I think that the lonelygirl creators do a good job at leaving us with something new to ask about or discover. Some episodes are more revealing than others but that is normal with every series.

platypusrex256 · Post by **platypusrex256** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:10 pm

EliCash wrote:
as a communications major at a private university, i tend to notice stuff like this and it just gets on my nerves.
As a communications major? Are you kidding me? So you're a child in school and that's supposed to impress me?

Oh, wait, no... it's the fact that you're at a "private" university? Sorry, but nobody is wowed by that one. One day you'll learn that after college nobody really cares about those things.

Going to college is great. Certainly I'm glad I went/graduated. But your ridiculous attempt at flaunting that like it's supposed to impress me just comes off as you being a jackass. Of what relevance is it that you go to a "private" university?

Let's see some of your brilliant work. Because once you get out into the real world, you'll discover people care much more about that than whether you went to a "private" university.

I could mock the "communications" major pretty easily, but my brother was a communications major and even though it's easy, I have no problem with it. Just because a major is easy doesn't mean it is deserving of less respect. However, I can say with certainty that the major certainly doesn't make you any more an "expert" than anybody here.

i'm sorry if that was offensive to you. basicly, i felt you were having a little trouble understanding my point. i was just helping myself to a little playful bantering. i was hoping we'd stay on topic with our biting remarks but apparently we have to resort to personal attacks and that makes platypus cry.

fyi, im not only a child in a university but a war veteran =D

platypusrex256 · Post by **platypusrex256** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:13 pm

Killthesmiley wrote:on top of that a lot of cities/towns/states (in general) in the USA literally have wireless internet everywheres. You could walk down the street with your laptop and surf the web.
This is to accomidate the recent growth in the technologies like RIM's Blackberry and HP IPaq and te new Apple Iphone. It's kind of like the warwalking video.
if you want a rational response to how and where they are posting the videos, consider that a lot of states have regional wireless internet systems set up, as well as hotels.

im not sure about that one... i live in seattle and we dont have that free wireless. the only city that thas free wireless, i believe, is san fransisco. thats a project by google, i think. and most public wireless connectios are firewalled and require payment.