0127 "Miss Me?" (OpAphid) [02/04/07]

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:55 am

Osei wrote:
nobackspacebutton wrote:Something I posted in response in the Plot Discussion threads...I thought this is interesting and its an alternative to the drugged-Daniel theory:

I think that was just put there to definately show that Daniel has been taken over by OpAphid. Also, if you think about the new hologram theory, maybe this is OpAphid, in the form of Daniel. Perhaps they took his photo, made a holographic image of a sort, OpAphid recorded this speach herself and then just changed the voice to Daniels. Perhaps Daniel is still "okay", but this whole video was generated somehow to look and sound like Daniel?
I really like this theory, and this is actually what I was thinking all along, only I couldn't quite get it into words to post my thoughts.. lol.

And they still could have him.. just maybe tied up or locked up somewhere.. even if they could do this to begin with it doesn't make sense that they WOULD do it, without knowing that they (or someone) had Daniel and he couldn't just pop back up at "home" and say "Hey, what's all this about? They don't have me.. I'm right here!" you know?

And thats why even though its not likely, its possible. Perhaps Daniel wouldn't say what they wanted...although Op calls Daniel her "puppet", she could also mean he's her puppet because she can make it appear like he does anything she wants. Its high-tech, and interesting...and like I said, although not likely, its possible and would also make sense.

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:31 am

Osei wrote:Ok, I am also a former drug user... and I just had to give my two cents on this as well... lol

first of all.. sounds nothing like LSD or 'shrooms... they don't change the way you think at all.. sometimes you get a "body trip" but mostly it just affects your vision.

second of all.. doesn't sound like MDMA (ecstasy) either. MDMA is very "speedy" causing you to talk faster and your voice also kinda "jumps".. also, he would not have looked so calm and relaxed.
....unless of course, they gave him one of those pills that's floating around now-a-days that people claim is "x" but is really what we used to call a "dirty pill" because it barely contains any MDMA at all and is mostly a combination of other drugs such as heroin....

...ok... way too much talk of drugs... maybe should've just kept my mouth shut.. but really- I know what I'm talking about.

Ok, I'm a current drug user and...oh sh*t..nevermind.

No, really though...it could be anything..or a combination of things. I doubt that it matters.

sugarmagnolia · Post by **sugarmagnolia** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:42 am

onsweetavenue wrote: These extraordinary properties led to experiments in the use of LSD in psychotherapy, philosophy, and by government agencies looking for ways to manipulate the mind for brainwashing and as a tool for assassination.

i've read a book on the CIA's study with LSD, and they definately proved that in was inconclusive because after experiments they decided that although sometimes the tester would do what they wanted, but most of the time not. it wasn't steady enough.

and as a person who's done LSD more times than i can count on my fingers, Daniel would not be talking the way he is. when you're tripping you're very confused and can't form sentences so completely, the way he is. if anything, daniel would probably be sitting there having a mental breakdown because he was hallucinating in an uncomfortable situation, without any clue what was going on.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:54 am

Yeah, he'd be like "hey bree it's daniel"...LOONG PAUSE...."what? Oh, it's daniel." "Hey...what's that over there..."

sugarmagnolia · Post by **sugarmagnolia** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:59 am

hahah.."who are you guys? i'm supposed to read what? wait. what. what are we doing. can we do more spin art?"

watching_watchers · Post by **watching_watchers** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:09 am

sugarmagnolia wrote:
onsweetavenue wrote: These extraordinary properties led to experiments in the use of LSD in psychotherapy, philosophy, and by government agencies looking for ways to manipulate the mind for brainwashing and as a tool for assassination.
i've read a book on the CIA's study with LSD, and they definately proved that in was inconclusive because after experiments they decided that although sometimes the tester would do what they wanted, but most of the time not. it wasn't steady enough.

and as a person who's done LSD more times than i can count on my fingers, Daniel would not be talking the way he is. when you're tripping you're very confused and can't form sentences so completely, the way he is. if anything, daniel would probably be sitting there having a mental breakdown because he was hallucinating in an uncomfortable situation, without any clue what was going on.

Are we thinking he took LSD now? O.o; I do believe it was my uncle or something who took a "trip" on LSD and well he ended up basically having the brain of a 10 year old boy and wasn't able to do things for himself and there was no one to take care of him so he was put into the hospital.

itsreallyreal · Post by **itsreallyreal** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:11 am

watching_watchers · Post by **watching_watchers** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:13 am

omegawoman wrote:Is it just me, or does Daniel actually look older in this video?

Anyway, the creators did manage to answer even more of our questions, especially "What ever happened to the ceremony?" It seems like everything is slowly coming together.

I am interested to see if Bree and Jonas actually act on this one instead of skateboard lessons or fooseball.

Bree is supposed to be extremely smart. It's time we see that in action.

He did look older somehow! Older and sexy(er) if thats even possible. ;] (since hes so sexy arleady) lol.

watching_watchers · Post by **watching_watchers** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:13 am

itsreallyreal wrote:

=/ did you just see the video now or is the shock due to something else? lol.

itsreallyreal · Post by **itsreallyreal** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:15 am

I wonder if they even really have Daniel at all!

watching_watchers · Post by **watching_watchers** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:16 am

itsreallyreal wrote:I wonder if they even really have Daniel at all!

Whys that? Since all of the cuts and what not? I'm pretty sure they have him. In my opinion. *shrug*

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:17 am

watching_watchers wrote:
itsreallyreal wrote:I wonder if they even really have Daniel at all!
Whys that? Since all of the cuts and what not? I'm pretty sure they have him. In my opinion. *shrug*

he is wearing the same shirt as he was like over 2 month ago, and seeing as he wouldnt have chance to change was it filmed within the last few days or a long time ago?

sugarmagnolia · Post by **sugarmagnolia** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:20 am

watching_watchers wrote: Are we thinking he took LSD now? O.o; I do believe it was my uncle or something who took a "trip" on LSD and well he ended up basically having the brain of a 10 year old boy and wasn't able to do things for himself and there was no one to take care of him so he was put into the hospital.

someone suggested it, but by the way he's acting i think most people would agree that he didn't.

i'm sorry about your uncle, that's really sad.

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:39 am

I can trip and speak perfectly fine..when I'm not laughing..I think.

aquanetnightmare · Post by **aquanetnightmare** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:42 am

nobackspacebutton wrote:Something I posted in response in the Plot Discussion threads...I thought this is interesting and its an alternative to the drugged-Daniel theory:

I think that was just put there to definately show that Daniel has been taken over by OpAphid. Also, if you think about the new hologram theory, maybe this is OpAphid, in the form of Daniel. Perhaps they took his photo, made a holographic image of a sort, OpAphid recorded this speach herself and then just changed the voice to Daniels. Perhaps Daniel is still "okay", but this whole video was generated somehow to look and sound like Daniel?

That's kinda what i've been thinking...