Not Daniel

sugarmagnolia · Post by **sugarmagnolia** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:32 pm

i was always under the impression that the order was everywhere, the police, government, ect. didn't bree mention that once? that they couldn't trust the police and so on? i might be wrong. either way, they would certainly have that sort of technology. although i'm pretty sure op's profile update talking about how puppets are fun makes it clear that she's controlling the actual daniel.

Theonlyavalon · Post by **Theonlyavalon** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:45 pm

Is it just me, or does he sound really weird? Why does he keep saying things like "It's all good" in that sleezy voice? That's not the way Daniel usually talks. I'm leaning towards brain washing. And why the random mentions of pizza, ice cream and what does he say? Spin art? What's that?

Things are certainly starting to pick up. What I'm looking forward to is the Bree and Jonas response vids. Don't keep us waiting too long, please!

megs229 · Post by **megs229** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:18 pm

I agree. The discription change on Opaphids profile about 'aren't puppet's fun" I think somehow that they have Daniel and they are controlling him. I am not sure if they have brain washed him or not, but they are somehow controlling what he is saying. The part that says " We have Daniel" and "listen to your friend Daniel" really bother me. They make me think that it is not Daniel, but I think it is. Maybe they are controlling what he says, or they are somehow threatening him or making him say it. When I say making him say it, I don't mean like controlling inside of his head but maybe in some other way like holding a gun to him ( just an example) or something. He was talking like he was trying to be "hip" so I think that they are speaking for him or he is using it as a way to try to alert Bree and Jonas. I am not really sure. It leaves so many possibilities.
I also agree on the part, that I hope they don't take forever to post a reply video!! This stuff of waiting days in between is nerve racking!!!!

gigi_victory · Post by **gigi_victory** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:41 pm

Theonlyavalon wrote:Is it just me, or does he sound really weird? Why does he keep saying things like "It's all good" in that sleezy voice? That's not the way Daniel usually talks. I'm leaning towards brain washing. And why the random mentions of pizza, ice cream and what does he say? Spin art? What's that?

Remember John Candy getting brainwashed in the movie Volunteers? Now that was some damn fine brainwashing. Daniel gets brainwashed, however, and becomes a creepy weirdo! Who was in charge of brainwashing him? It's like a mix between Shaft and a five-year old kid.

loobylou · Post by **loobylou** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:47 pm

I totally believe that the Order has ways of brainwashing, so that Daniel says all these things without really wanting to.

But if they can brainwash then how did they ever let Bree get away?? Surely when she refused to take part in the ceremony, they could just have taken her in and brainwashed her to do whatever it is they want??

cosmicdancer · Post by **cosmicdancer** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:30 pm

nobackspacebutton wrote:hmm interesting..if they can biogenetically engineer people...maybe they made a Daniel. =P

Build-A-Beast.

Heh heh.

TheScentofLavender · Post by **TheScentofLavender** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:21 pm

cosmicdancer wrote:
nobackspacebutton wrote:hmm interesting..if they can biogenetically engineer people...maybe they made a Daniel. =P
Build-A-Beast.

Heh heh.

Haha! Build-A-Beast! The order should forget Bree and concentrate on DB, that's where the money is. You can order your very own Daniel Beast from The Order. You can dress him up like that bear site. How about one of the eye catching getups in "For The Ladies"? AND they will brainwash him anyway you want (drop the sleazy lingo and give him an accent for example).

RiverFleur · Post by **RiverFleur** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:27 pm

Yeah that could have happened, if they did catch Daniel and he was unwilling to cooperate in their little video, they could have just analyzed his voice and his look and edited a video together.

That would explain the blinding white light behind him and the sound quality, which are probably there so we can't notice minor details.

Magesa · Post by **Magesa** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:48 pm

I'm going to vote for a combo brainwashing and technology super-editing, but I am leading towards technology super-editing because I think it can be done, the Order is super-powerful, and maybe with just a little brain-washed participation from Daniel, they can piece that together. What especially makes me think this is when he says "We have Daniel." That sounds more like OpAphid than Daniel to me. Maybe they just pieced together bits from an unwilling Daniel -- I think it can be done, and they did a good job, but the video is pretty choppy, and the audio is very weird, and hazy with white light.

Also, I KNOW that "itscassie" isn't canon, but in her videos she seems distressed, like they got her to do some of it not all of it... so something similar with Daniel.

Now, the random parts about the food remind me of brainwashing and "The Chronicles of Narnia" -- that points to brainwashing but maybe they want Bree to think he's brainwashed? Bree is definitely too smart to believe him, but maybe he isn't brainwashed and she thinks he is...

One thing is for sure, however -- The Order definitely has Daniel, at least physically and possibly mentally, and that is "no good."