[VIDEO] 2-10-07 The Human Ransom

Magesa · Post by **Magesa** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:58 am

I always thought it meant stop the elevator, but when I think about it, it doesn't make much sense. The bomb came in before it was stopped, the elevator hadn't actually started... well, maybe it was to throw the Order off.

I never thought of the aborting the plan thing. It makes sense, but like you, I'm wondering WHY

pnktinkerbell21 · Post by **pnktinkerbell21** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:00 am

I <3 the vid... But I hate what it means for hardcore ARGers...

TOSG · Post by **TOSG** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:41 am

onsweetavenue wrote:
I also want to know why bree said "wait - stop!"

It could have just been to augment the confusion that would transpire after the flash bomb went off (probably just a split-second later).

bribak · Post by **bribak** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:44 am

Magesa wrote:
islandlove wrote:did anyone figure out what bree said to daniel?
There has been a lot of speculation... "It'll be okay", something with "OpAphid", something to do with the plan, warning him about the bomb, "Don't worry, it'll be all right," even "There's pizza and ice cream on the top floor"

I'm probably missing a lot of theories in that little list!

yeah, i kinda wanna know what she said to Daniel too. i watched it a few times and to me it looked like, "[something] a mistake." this might be why she said, "wait. stop," as the elevator door closed. it also kind of looked like, "[something] Op is dead." That last one doesn't really make any sense though, unless she was stating that she was going to get her revenge: "Op is sooooooo dead!" I dont know

. i cant really make anything of those first few words.

anyways, i think jonas is alright. jonas, bree, and daniel had the high ground. it doesn't take much to kick somebody down the stairs; especially if your foot connects with their face . plus someone logged into his youtube account 8 hours ago from the time of this post. it might have been bree or daniel, but why would they log into his youtube account for him? the creators have been really good about logging into youtube accounts, i think.

impulse · Post by **impulse** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:17 am

Hello evil opaphidians,

Interested in knowing where Tachyon kicked Opaphid's ass?

How about a stroll down Wilshire Blvd in Berverly Hills? Stop at North Roxbury Drive, just 3 block east of Santa Monica Blvd. There you are!

Or set your GPS at 34 04' 02.71" N and 118 24' 23.31" W.

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Renegade · Post by **Renegade** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:25 am

deagol wrote:
Renegade wrote:...
Think of it this way: What reason would Daniel or Tachyon have to withhold that information from us?
True enough, but I'll give you the flip arguement. Why did Daniel have to edit (with help) and post Jonas' video? Jonas would probably have loved to co-edit this with Tachy, and learn a few tips.

You've got a point there, but it could have been a psychology...Tachyon wanting to evaluate if Daniel was turned by the Order, and Jonas and Bree thinking Daniel could use some distraction.

Especially "Siegmund Freud" Jonas would probably have been in support of that, even more if Tachy is staying and he'll have another opportunity to work with her.

deagol wrote:Why didn't they show us Jonas climbing out to safety? Why did he delay Bree (and thus everyone behind) by handing her the camera?

I'm purely theorizing here, but...what if the camera did run? What if they do have footage of everyone escaping?

If we assume Tachy takes credit for throwing the flashbang because she actually did it, and Brother flew the helicopter, "everyone" includes Tachyon and Brother.
Why would Tachyon break her own and Brother's anonymity, just to please some minions on the internet?

deagol · Post by **deagol** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:32 am

Makes sense. Oh and good job with that sig.

I think that's 435 N Roxbury Dr, Beverly Hills. A search shows up a bunch of dentist, dermatologists, and plastic surgeons offices. Oh my, that's the ceremony, they need Bree's youthful skin!

Lola · Post by **Lola** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:57 am

I'm pretty sure the building is 9701 Wilshire Blvd. (at the corner of Roxbury). It's the Manufacturer's Bank Building as well as home to the Endeavor Talent Agency.

I'm not sure if identifying any of these locations is important however. It just seems to be telling us 'all roads point to LA.'

omegawoman · Post by **omegawoman** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:59 am

Does anyone else think it looks like Lucy also whispers something in Daniel's ear? It happens on the elevator. Lucy puts her head down, and it looks like her lips are moving.

If this is the case, is she warning Daniel? Is she running with them or at them?

itsreallyreal · Post by **itsreallyreal** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:02 am

Well I think that Jonas was still carying the Camera at the end right? That's why we see Daniel and Bree... so THAT was Jonas right?

With the comment she makes (About her last boling score) I think TACHY herself threw the flashbang... and yes brother flew the chopper... The question is... Where did brother and Tachy take them!?

And clearly Tachy wanted us to know what was up or they wouldn;t have been able to post that video right? Anyone think Brother was the one who helped with teh uber cool editing...

itsreallyreal · Post by **itsreallyreal** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:22 am

OK so for the record...

- Bree and jonas took Daniel to the building for the "swap"...

- Bree said "Something" to daniel... They swap...

- Tachy throws a flashbnag into the elivator...

- Somehow they all end up running up the fire stairs to the roof where a helicopter can be heard...

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A few questions... We know that Tachy threw the bang since she made the comment about her bowling score.. But in the end it appears to only be Bree Daniel and Jonas in the stairwell... WTF? Where is Tachy???

I also LOVE that after all the helicoptor references in teh series we find out Brother is a chopper man himself...

Oh... and lastly... Bree looks UBER hot in the super white pictures... WTF is that all about...

impulse · Post by **impulse** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:34 am

About the building...

Is it important? I don't know, but some people were wondering. This video was very location specific. Who knows where's gonna be the next drop. And now, NikkiB knows where to go next.

itsreallyreal · Post by **itsreallyreal** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:56 am

I like how deliberate it was...

Just because they chose the elivator in that building to make the switch does NOT mean that this is where Oppy is!!!

Also a couple "Landmark" keys...

All the "Flat Lands" in the beginning is the California Central Valley (Space between ukiah and LA...

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Also after the plane lands with tachy and you see the oil fields... This is the terrain between LA/Holywood where the building is and the the Ontario Airport in Riverside County...

They really made a point of letting us now where everything was...

impulse · Post by **impulse** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:58 am

I also have a floor map of the building if you are interested.

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Loki · Post by **Loki** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:26 am

Ah, well that's why they chose that particular building then. *points to the floor plan* See how the elevator is centrally place and right next to the stairway?