The Punch

[Balmung]

I'm neither for nor against the "embrace" theory, but i don't think the unmoving mouth point holds water. it's too blurry to see if his mouth is moving or not. he's definately not yelling, as we'd hear it and see the drastic movements. but if he was speaking normally, in a subdued tone, as he would be, considering all his actions seemed to be "held back", you wouldn't be able to see much of anything from that distance at that resolution.

edit: spelling

[longlostposter]

So, some are assuming that the watch this title was for the show of a bit of romantic connection. You know, hinting at something for the future. Though, I'm not sure if it was to show any romantic significance. I don't think it does, but it does add a little spice for those of us who love to think up theories.

Well many think, and I agree, that the title is meant to be sarcastic towards the watchers.
Sort of throwing it in their face that they are resisting, you know what I mean?

[Balmung]

oh i get it it's a play on words

[nobackspacebutton]

Regarding the punch, and Jonas fighting...either Jonas is one bad actor or he was pretending not to know that was a watcher. Remember his "Is that what I think it is?" Totally fake.

[Lurker]

Regarding the punch, and Jonas fighting...either Jonas is one bad actor or he was pretending not to know that was a watcher. Remember his "Is that what I think it is?" Totally fake.

I don't know. That seemed like a believable reaction to me. I really think we pick apart every line too much (I do it too). Sometimes an expression is just an expression.

[smurfswim]

Here are my thoughts on the watcher's strength.

1) he probably works out every day, considering the dangers of his job.

2) even though it looks really intimidating when he catches his punch, any idiot knows how intimidating it would be. so if he could very possibly have done or practiced doing something like that before; especially if he knows he's not allowed to use direct force in his job.

3) have someone punch your hand as hard as they can, while you try to catch it standing straight up. see? it's not quite as hard as it looks, and it definitely won't knock you off balance. the hard part is to actually catch it and not let it slip out of your hand.

4) the mind is an amazing thing. i don't know how many LG15 fans watch Trigun, but there's a character named Legato who has the ability to control people's minds. he causes them kill themselves [and very violently, i might add], in ways that normally would seem impossible. even though it's a manga, and not real, the mind really does have a lot of power, and a brainwashed/ mind controlled person could appear to be much stronger than deemed normally possible.

OH! epiphany! when you're on certain drugs [can't remember it for the life of me, i'm not a druggie lol], you get INSANELY strong. i saw a video where it took 5 cops to hold one guy down, because he was soo strong from the drugs.

Edited - for spelling

I wouldn't be surprised if the Order was all cracked out on PCP. Remember the chain smoking Watcher?

[Balmung]

well i'm not saying the order are druggies neccesarily, i just meant that the mind is a powerful thing

[hahacool]

I don't know what to think of this guy. He didn't even seem human to me. But I believe he is. It doesn't seem to me as if he is going to end up being a bad guy, I'm not really sure what he'll end up as but I just get the feeling he isn't part of the order.

[longlostposter]

Here are my thoughts on the watcher's strength.

1) he probably works out every day, considering the dangers of his job.

2) even though it looks really intimidating when he catches his punch, any idiot knows how intimidating it would be. so if he could very possibly have done or practiced doing something like that before; especially if he knows he's not allowed to use direct force in his job.

3) have someone punch your hand as hard as they can, while you try to catch it standing straight up. see? it's not quite as hard as it looks, and it definitely won't knock you off balance. the hard part is to actually catch it and not let it slip out of your hand.

4) the mind is an amazing thing. i don't know how many LG15 fans watch Trigun, but there's a character named Legato who has the ability to control people's minds. he causes them kill themselves [and very violently, i might add], in ways that normally would seem impossible. even though it's a manga, and not real, the mind really does have a lot of power, and a brainwashed/ mind controlled person could appear to be much stronger than deemed normally possible.

OH! epiphany! when you're on certain drugs [can't remember it for the life of me, i'm not a druggie lol], you get INSANELY strong. i saw a video where it took 5 cops to hold one guy down, because he was soo strong from the drugs.

Edited - for spelling

I agree with all of this, Balmung.

[Languorous Lass]

EDIT: KilltheSmiley, yeah, for the guy to so effortlessly handle Jonas' punch is odd. I know he's bigger than Jonas and probably stronger anyway given his "profession," but I still kind of wonder if it implies superhuman strength.

Between the catching-the-punch, and the suits with shades, the guy's demeanor reminds me of the Matrix.

Oh, and about the "embrace" stuff: I didn't see anything that looked romantic or sexual. I think people are reading far too much into the whole scene.

[jennabellie]

What I see suspicious about Jonas is that he is willing to go so far out on a limb for Bree and Daniel. I mean, he's known them about two months or so, and he's just jumping at the chance to go head-on against the Order. I know he was lonely, but that is just unbelievable to me.

Unless...he is Bree's brother or some other family member. While I don't agree that he was embracing Bree in this last video, it has been said he was. If he is a member of her family, it would explain the possible "embrace", and Jonas' strange compulsion to protect Bree.

i don't suspect jonas only because look at his life. he lives in that big house and doesn't seem to have many friends. he has all that money and basically no family there to care about him. i'm thinking that he saw that these two needed help and decided to be kind and house them. he became closer to them and feared for the safety of his new friends. i think it's a type of "you jump, i jump" mentality at this point (sorry to quote titanic!).

or maybe he was just bored and wanted some action! (and by action i mean like action movies!)

and also, if he embraced bree i'd think it more along the lines of how guys feel protective over females. maybe not but that's what i think.

[longlostposter]

I don't know. That seemed like a believable reaction to me. I really think we pick apart every line too much (I do it too). Sometimes an expression is just an expression.

I agree. Jonas is a boxer, so some kind of "I'm bad" kinda think might have kicked in.

[PinkoLady]

What is this whole, silly embrace thing? Everything happened too fast for it to possibly mean anything. Make it go away.

[Christie91]

Would you embrace in front of some weird dude in shades for no apparant reason? I mean come on, there is no way at all that that was an embrace

As for the watcher guy, he seemed kinda expressionless to me. Like he didn't do or say anything

[Beckers]

I don't know. That seemed like a believable reaction to me. I really think we pick apart every line too much (I do it too). Sometimes an expression is just an expression.

I agree. Jonas is a boxer, so some kind of "I'm bad" kinda think might have kicked in.

I think Jonas is sick of being followed...I mean he is usually alone most of the time before bree and daniel (according to Jonas) so it probably bother him a lot. I think Jonas just wanted to let them know that he knows they are watching them and they're not going to be scared of them anymore.