Bree's Dad NOT Dead?

xAccordianGuyx · Post by **xAccordianGuyx** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:07 pm

What if, like Bree's mom, Bree's dad is working for the Order and is still alive? Because they might have just pulled that off to scare Bree into coming back to them and doing the ceremony. And if you watch The Unthinkable Happened again, you'll notice that a few seconds before the car comes, Bree's dad turns his head and looks towards them, but he doesn't do anything until they stop in front of them.
Anyone agree with this theory?

betz28 · Post by **betz28** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:55 pm

definately something to think about

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:10 pm

yes, we should keep in mind that we can't be 100% sure that he's dead

hahacool · Post by **hahacool** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:17 pm

Her father seemed to be in the order quite a great deal and liked to stay pure, atleast he wanted Bree too. If they instructed him to take part in making her believe he was dead, maybe he would to stay true and pure to his religion.

Christie91 · Post by **Christie91** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:28 pm

Pleeeeeeeeease for the love of god don't start another "no dead corpse, no dead character" theory again. I'm getting so tired of this espesscially since it happened with Gemma

It hurts my head

PinkoLady · Post by **PinkoLady** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:51 pm

Christie91 wrote: I'm getting so tired of this espesscially since it happened with Gemma

Since WHAT happened? Is there a body?? Can you prove it???

luzdzus · Post by **luzdzus** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:59 pm

There do seem to be a lot of missing corpses, unread notes, and dangling plotlines, don't there? That's one of the things I like about LG15. No matter how logical something seems, it could still be dead wrong and we might never find out for sure.

hahacool · Post by **hahacool** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:15 pm

I think we should all be open to any possibilities, former characters may come back, and they may not haha None of us know for sure but it's okay to have an idea or theory, a theory is not wrong until proven as so.

milowent · Post by **milowent** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:11 pm

Sami wrote:yes, we should keep in mind that we can't be 100% sure that he's dead

funny you put it that way, i'm one of those who feel we can't be 100% sure that's he's alive (but he probably is!)

luzdzus · Post by **luzdzus** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:16 pm

I have a theory about theories, which I guess would make it a metatheory.

Humans are time- and causality-oriented creatures. Our main means of survival is understanding how and why things happen so that we can cause them to happen when we want them to and prevent them from happening when we don't. As such, we are driven to try to understand anything and everything that crosses our path, to the point that we perceive patterns where they don't really exist. We hear music in raindrops hitting the ground, and see faces in clouds. We're most comfortable when we believe that we understand our environment and have a self-consistent set of explanations for what our senses are telling us. To steal a line from someone's sig here - "It's an anomaly, anomalies bug me". Being right or wrong are not as important as being consistent. Ultimately, this is what all philosophy boils down to - a search for a conceptual framework that includes the available facts.

Lg15 is a sort of Rorschach test writ in video. Everyone has to put together an interpretation which satisfies him- or herself, and find ways to make the facts fit into the theory. There are so many facts and so many loose ends which may be read ambiguously that no one will ever be able to tie up every line and camera shot into one grand unified theory that explains everything, so some of the information must be left pending, and this is where each person's individuality comes into play. Someone who believes the Illuminati, for instance, are behind everything will seize on anything that could conceivably point to them as vindication for his theory and leave the rest in abeyance until some other piece of information allows each piece to be explained as Illuminati-related. Ditto for aliens, rosicrucians, or any other explanation the individual may hold dear. In the end, each person's private interpretation of the experience is a reflection of the person rather than the experience itself. This, of course, is the very definition of gnosis.

Jumpin' Jezuz, that is not what I sat down to write. Oh, well. STET

reputationforte · Post by **reputationforte** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:39 pm

hahacool wrote:Her father seemed to be in the order quite a great deal and liked to stay pure, atleast he wanted Bree too. If they instructed him to take part in making her believe he was dead, maybe he would to stay true and pure to his religion.

Would it be "true to his religion" to tell Bree stuff about the order?
But he might be alive, just that i dont think he's staying true to his religion

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:47 pm

luzdzus wrote:I have a theory about theories, which I guess would make it a metatheory.

You're a Communications student/teacher, aren't you?

luzdus wrote:Humans are time- and causality-oriented creatures. Our main means of survival is understanding how and why things happen so that we can cause them to happen when we want them to and prevent them from happening when we don't. As such, we are driven to try to understand anything and everything that crosses our path, to the point that we perceive patterns where they don't really exist. We hear music in raindrops hitting the ground, and see faces in clouds. We're most comfortable when we believe that we understand our environment and have a self-consistent set of explanations for what our senses are telling us. To steal a line from someone's sig here - "It's an anomaly, anomalies bug me". Being right or wrong are not as important as being consistent. Ultimately, this is what all philosophy boils down to - a search for a conceptual framework that includes the available facts.

Yep, you almost definitely are. If not that, then certainly Psychology or Sociology. Got to be one of the three.

luzdus wrote:Lg15 is a sort of Rorschach test writ in video. Everyone has to put together an interpretation which satisfies him- or herself, and find ways to make the facts fit into the theory. There are so many facts and so many loose ends which may be read ambiguously that no one will ever be able to tie up every line and camera shot into one grand unified theory that explains everything, so some of the information must be left pending, and this is where each person's individuality comes into play. Someone who believes the Illuminati, for instance, are behind everything will seize on anything that could conceivably point to them as vindication for his theory and leave the rest in abeyance until some other piece of information allows each piece to be explained as Illuminati-related. Ditto for aliens, rosicrucians, or any other explanation the individual may hold dear. In the end, each person's private interpretation of the experience is a reflection of the person rather than the experience itself. This, of course, is the very definition of gnosis.

You need to post more often. No, seriously.

luzdus wrote:Jumpin' Jezuz, that is not what I sat down to write. Oh, well. STET

Definitely thinking Communications!

I agree with all you just said, and you said it very well. By the way, in my experience, you end up writing your best stuff when it isn't what you intended to make from the start.

milowent · Post by **milowent** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:55 pm

luzdzus wrote:Ditto for aliens

great post luzdzus!

Balmung · Post by **Balmung** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:02 pm

it's definately a possibility that bree's dad is not dead. i'm doing an analysis of the video now, similar to what i did with "watch this".

i'll post whatever i find

edit: man, they put some effects of the video that make it next to impossible to see! it's like a video echo, or when you're lagging..

luzdzus · Post by **luzdzus** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:28 pm

Lurker wrote:
You're a Communications student/teacher, aren't you?

Wouldja believe electromechanical engineering, but not a student or teacher? That's probably why I like this fuzzy stuff for entertainment. It's about as far removed from gears and amperes as you can get.