[Discussion] Semiotics Contents: Note/Numbers

ladron121 · Post by **ladron121** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:55 pm

tigerlilylynn wrote:Working on it...it's messy

This is why I

Tiger so much. Thank you!

PinkoLady · Post by **PinkoLady** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:01 pm

diastres · Post by **diastres** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:38 pm

Killthesmiley wrote:The first post needs to be updated!!!

As a request:

If someone wants the first post updated with some information, please don't just say it needs to be updated. State what needs to be added.

I've been pulling things from the thread and sticking them in the first post, but I might miss something. Plus I was just sleeping for hours and I'm recovering for the flu. Granted, the Operators can as well, but there's no saying they didn't miss something either (especially in the huge number of photoanalysis posts that were there last night).

tigerlilylynn · Post by **tigerlilylynn** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:45 pm

diastres wrote:
Killthesmiley wrote:The first post needs to be updated!!!
As a request:

If someone wants the first post updated with some information, please don't just say it needs to be updated. State what needs to be added.

I've been pulling things from the thread and sticking them in the first post, but I might miss something. Plus I was just sleeping for hours and I'm recovering for the flu. Granted, the Operators can as well, but there's no saying they didn't miss something either (especially in the huge number of photoanalysis posts that were there last night).

Word pie. Splitting the image posts off of this was hard enough, getting value out of it???

All I can think to add is *dons 6th sense voice* I see blurry things

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:47 pm

tiger is teh hawtness!!!

PinkoLady · Post by **PinkoLady** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:50 pm

You kick so much ass for doing that though, Tigerlilylynn-- it must have been a pain in the ass, but it's going to make the process of figuring stuff out way less confusing.

Jo_16_2 · Post by **Jo_16_2** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:51 pm

good job tiger!

luzdzus · Post by **luzdzus** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:52 pm

I'm wondering if the semiotics thing means that the second pic (ligatures) should be read like a cartoon, rather than getting into possible meanings of the symbols.

From top left -

Two symbols smushed together (Tau and omicron) could be a symbol for Bree and Daniel as a team. The straight lines of tau would be male, and the roundness of omicron as female.

Lambda and sigma pushed together and slightly fuzzed would be the original team (sigma) with an addition (Jonas).

Theta on three legs (mu?, not that it matters) would show the current condition of the partnership, and it's really blurry to show that things aren't going too well.

The final symbol - theta on two legs - is crisp again. Maybe foreshadowing that things will go more smoothly once the third leg is removed?

PinkoLady · Post by **PinkoLady** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:02 pm

diastres wrote:
Killthesmiley wrote:The first post needs to be updated!!!
As a request:

If someone wants the first post updated with some information, please don't just say it needs to be updated. State what needs to be added.

I've been pulling things from the thread and sticking them in the first post, but I might miss something. Plus I was just sleeping for hours and I'm recovering for the flu. Granted, the Operators can as well, but there's no saying they didn't miss something either (especially in the huge number of photoanalysis posts that were there last night).

Maybe it would be helpful to put the identifications of the different symbols?

LIGATURES:
Top left: Omicron and Tau combined
Top right: Phoenician Gimel [as pointed out by Tigerlilylynn] next to Sigma

Bottom Left: Theta on top of Mu [Watcher Symbol]
Bottom right: Theta on top of Pi

AMALGAMATION
Top Left: Theta

Bottom Left: Though the watcher symbol on the right would imply that it should be Mu, the flat top makes it appear more like Epsilon spun 90 degress [as pointed out by klgglk]

Bottom Left: Theta on top of Mu [Watcher Symbol]

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Edit: And tigerlilylynn, I have to say, looking at that symbol as the Phoenician Gimel now, it looks nothing like Lambda to me anymore.

Lamda = upside down V

tristan · Post by **tristan** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:05 pm

dont know if this has been said but the line 'it is greek; it cannot be read' is a very early version of the phrase it's all greek to me, not sure if that helps but heres the link where i found that:

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-gre1.htm

Antissa Pompeii · Post by **Antissa Pompeii** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:22 pm

Okay, this seems really dumb, and it probably is, but something about the Latin sentance is bothering me. It says 'Graecum est; non potest legi.' And in my Latin class, we've learned that the ending 'est' in the word 'postest' means 'he/she can,' so possibly that implies that maybe a certain person cannot open that, or figure it out.

Like I said, kinda dumb, but just maybe...

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:24 pm

Antissa Pompeii wrote:Okay, this seems really dumb, and it probably is, but something about the Latin sentance is bothering me. It says 'Graecum est; non potest legi.' And in my Latin class, we've learned that the ending 'est' in the word 'postest' means 'he/she can,' so possibly that implies that maybe a certain person cannot open that, or figure it out.

Like I said, kinda dumb, but just maybe...

its already been figured out lol

PinkoLady · Post by **PinkoLady** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:28 pm

Josh: She's not translating it, she's wondering if the syntax could have any particular significance.

At any rate, if it's in passive voice, wouldn't the the subject be the thing being read, rather than the reader? The "he/she" in that case, would refer to "it" [the thing that cannot be read].

janesalteredstates · Post by **janesalteredstates** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:00 pm

The Theta is similar to an Egyptian symbol that represents the Sun, and the Mu was derived from the Egyptian hieroglyphic symbol for water. So the Sun equals Ra...and the water equals Naunet? Or maybe Poseidon? When combined this "watcher" symbol establishes that the Order rules and watches over all that exists in between.

Theta is the 8th letter, Mu is the 12th. So that's one more 12, but the 8 = ?.

Theta was also used as an abbreviation for "Thanatos," and considered a warning of death.

I don't understand what she means by "that's one more 12." an someone explain that to me or point me to an explanation?

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:22 pm

ladron121 wrote:
Lurker wrote:
Loki wrote:I think it's pretty obvious what we're being told here. "Watchers" are like the guardians of everything between the Sun and the water.
I don't think it's so obvious (certainly no else has suggested that). To me it looks like something that would go along with an Illuminati-like theory (an "all-seeing eye"). In other words, that the Order's authority and influence run deep, and they see everything.
From the note that was in the encrypted file:

The Theta is similar to an Egyptian symbol that represents the Sun, and the Mu was derived from the Egyptian hieroglyphic symbol for water. So the Sun equals Ra...and the water equals Naunet? Or maybe Poseidon? When combined this "watcher" symbol establishes that the Order rules and watches over all that exists in between.

I'm aware it says that (I'd have to be to discuss it), but as I said in the post you quoted, I don't see anything about its wording that "obviously" indicates these people to be guardians.