[DISCUSSION] A new theory about the symbols

[KelQuelle]

it also says theta could possibly have something more to do with death, right? perhaps it isn't sun after all. i don't know. after all that mention of gods i'm reading about them all to see if there are anymore connections. also i found this. it looks similar to the symbols

[yarvin]

Could Theta+Pi be a kind of "Messengers" organization? The mouthpiece of OpAphid/the Order? Death+Speech?

Don't think that makes any sense but thought it might spark someone's creativity.

[Luminous]

Maybe they are the grim reapers of the order. The D in APHID. Those who bring the message of death - those who transport you into another dimension - hey that does go with what my friend said


May be each of the four ligatures is associated with one of the initials in APHID?

EDIT: Oops. That doesn't work - Four symbols, five letters Like I said, I don't do math

[EdWont]

People have been kicking around this combination, so I thought I'd share what I've done with this pairing so far.:

1.) Phoenicians: Tachyon had talked about looking at where the Greek letters had derived from in her encrypted .txt file, so I went back and found that all the letters can be traced to ancient phoenician. Using this approach, the theta comes from the letter te'th, which can be made to represent the name of God (when in combination with other letters), a wheel, or good. Pi is derived from the Phoenician letter pe' and represents "mouth." By this interpretation, this pairing can be "The Mouth of God." Unlike a lot of the other letters in the ligatures, neither has a "crown" or "tagin" when written.

2.) Phoenecian/Sky hybrid: If we subscribe to Tachyon's view that Theta is suposed to represent the sky or death, and keep the idea that Pi is the mouth, then the amalgamation becomes "Speaking Under the Sky," or "Speaking of/for Death."

3.) Egpytian Hieroglyphs: Several standard, ancient Egyptian heiroglyphs look like Pi. They include a folded linen symbol and a shelter symbol.

On the whole, I like the idea of Pi being associated with talking (and I think others have brought up that Pi might mean 'mouth').
If this is the case, It's reasonable to assume that Theta-Pi is actually the symbol of the branch that communicates with the public...almost like a ministry of propaganda/communication. I think this goes beyond just "manipulating" like somebody else had alluded to, but rather deals with all communication aspects (like communicating orders to field operatives with whom they can't communicate directly, and possibly teaching, as was the case with Lucy). If this is true, then we'd have a surveillance department, and a communication department. My only issue here is that it doesn't illuminate the function of the other symbols. Even with the Theta-Mu ligature, it really says nothing of the act of "watching" but only refers to where they're looking. Either there's a big misinterpretation or we'll need more information about the divisions of the order before we can assign ligatures to them.

The previous post was done from my own work; sorry if I repeated anything already said.

[tigerlilylynn]

Could Theta+Pi be a kind of "Messengers" organization? The mouthpiece of OpAphid/the Order? Death+Speech?

Don't think that makes any sense but thought it might spark someone's creativity.

Or it could still mean sun.
The watchers watch all between sun and water. They speakers talk to everyone, not just in group. They talk to outsiders, manipulate the view of the group. This fits Gemma and Jonas both in this case.

Edit: Leave it to V to say it faster and better

[yarvin]

Maybe they are the grim reapers of the order. The D in APHID. Those who bring the message of death - those who transport you into another dimension - hey that does go with what my friend said


May be each of the four ligatures is associated with one of the initials in APHID?

EDIT: Oops. That doesn't work - Four symbols, five letters Like I said, I don't do math

May still work.

Like the Cross, the Tetramorph symbolises a highly-complex system of relationships and elements which find their origin in the centre. Thus the tetramorph alludes to the 5th element or quintessence, the element beyond the visible four natural elements of earth, air, water, and fire, to the invisible ether of the alchemists. (Link)

Let me give this a shot:

A -> Analyze -> Watchers -> Theta+Mu
P -> Protect -> Tau+Omicron (looks like a sword+shield)
H -> Hinder -> Lambda+Sigma?
I -> Infiltrate -> Theta+Pi (since Jonas and Gemma tried to "infiltrate" into Bree's life)
D -> Destroy -> Some as-yet-unrevealed branch of the organization?

EDIT: I realized that we have absolutely no evidence that the Order means Bree any harm. The Watchers seem unwilling to lay a hand on her, while Jonas and Gemma simply "infiltrated" her life. The only time they've harmed anyone is when they killed Bree's father.

[ladron121]

Could Theta+Pi be a kind of "Messengers" organization? The mouthpiece of OpAphid/the Order? Death+Speech?

Don't think that makes any sense but thought it might spark someone's creativity.

Or it could still mean sun.
The watchers watch all between sun and water. They speakers talk to everyone, not just in group. They talk to outsiders, manipulate the view of the group. This fits Gemma and Jonas both in this case.

Their branch of the Order could have been the ones that taught the children the alternate version of what OpAPHID means. They would basically be public relations people, or in the case of Jonas/Gemma misinformation people. They may also be the spy section, since to talk to everyone is to gain information.

[ladron121]

Let me give this a shot:

A -> Analyze -> Watchers -> Theta+Mu
P -> Protect -> Tau+Omicron (looks like a sword+shield)
H -> Hinder -> Lambda+Sigma?
I -> Infiltrate -> Theta+Pi (since Jonas and Gemma tried to "infiltrate" into Bree's life)
D -> Destroy -> Some as-yet-unrevealed branch of the organization?

OpAPHID is one branch of the order. I don't think that each letter has its own department.

[janesalteredstates]

The fact that pi is a real number puzzles me.

On another note, has it been discussed that Theta is "A plane angle in geometry."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle

That angle looks familiar.

"In order to measure an angle θ, a circular arc centered at the vertex of the angle is drawn, e.g. with a compass. The length of the arc s is then divided by the radius of the circle r, and possibly multiplied by a constant k"

Suddenly I see a geometric link between pi and theta.

[KelQuelle]

People have been kicking around this combination, so I thought I'd share what I've done with this pairing so far.:

1.) Phoenicians: Tachyon had talked about looking at where the Greek letters had derived from in her encrypted .txt file, so I went back and found that all the letters can be traced to ancient phoenician. Using this approach, the theta comes from the letter te'th, which can be made to represent the name of God (when in combination with other letters), a wheel, or good. Pi is derived from the Phoenician letter pe' and represents "mouth." By this interpretation, this pairing can be "The Mouth of God." Unlike a lot of the other letters in the ligatures, neither has a "crown" or "tagin" when written.

2.) Phoenecian/Sky hybrid: If we subscribe to Tachyon's view that Theta is suposed to represent the sky or death, and keep the idea that Pi is the mouth, then the amalgamation becomes "Speaking Under the Sky," or "Speaking of/for Death."

3.) Egpytian Hieroglyphs: Several standard, ancient Egyptian heiroglyphs look like Pi. They include a folded linen symbol and a shelter symbol.

On the whole, I like the idea of Pi being associated with talking (and I think others have brought up that Pi might mean 'mouth').
If this is the case, It's reasonable to assume that Theta-Pi is actually the symbol of the branch that communicates with the public...almost like a ministry of propaganda/communication. I think this goes beyond just "manipulating" like somebody else had alluded to, but rather deals with all communication aspects (like communicating orders to field operatives with whom they can't communicate directly, and possibly teaching, as was the case with Lucy). If this is true, then we'd have a surveillance department, and a communication department. My only issue here is that it doesn't illuminate the function of the other symbols. Even with the Theta-Mu ligature, it really says nothing of the act of "watching" but only refers to where they're looking. Either there's a big misinterpretation or we'll need more information about the divisions of the order before we can assign ligatures to them.

The previous post was done from my own work; sorry if I repeated anything already said.

I think you are right about pi. I saw someone mentioned that in another thread as well. Also, I was going between a wiki and a page that mentioned some stuff about the gods and i saw that lambda is like goats or shepards or something to do with hearding and sigma was like derived from a symboly that meant deity so i was thinking maybe lambda/sigma is like a shepard of the gods...maybe?

[yarvin]

The fact that pi is a real number puzzles me.

On another note, has it been discussed that Theta is "A plane angle in geometry."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle

That angle looks familiar.

"In order to measure an angle θ, a circular arc centered at the vertex of the angle is drawn, e.g. with a compass. The length of the arc s is then divided by the radius of the circle r, and possibly multiplied by a constant k"

Suddenly I see a geometric link between pi and theta.

Hmm, angles can be measured in terms of pi. 2*pi = 360 degrees.

[EdWont]

People have been kicking around this combination, so I thought I'd share what I've done with this pairing so far.:

1.) Phoenicians: Tachyon had talked about looking at where the Greek letters had derived from in her encrypted .txt file, so I went back and found that all the letters can be traced to ancient phoenician. Using this approach, the theta comes from the letter te'th, which can be made to represent the name of God (when in combination with other letters), a wheel, or good. Pi is derived from the Phoenician letter pe' and represents "mouth." By this interpretation, this pairing can be "The Mouth of God." Unlike a lot of the other letters in the ligatures, neither has a "crown" or "tagin" when written.

2.) Phoenecian/Sky hybrid: If we subscribe to Tachyon's view that Theta is suposed to represent the sky or death, and keep the idea that Pi is the mouth, then the amalgamation becomes "Speaking Under the Sky," or "Speaking of/for Death."

3.) Egpytian Hieroglyphs: Several standard, ancient Egyptian heiroglyphs look like Pi. They include a folded linen symbol and a shelter symbol.

On the whole, I like the idea of Pi being associated with talking (and I think others have brought up that Pi might mean 'mouth').
If this is the case, It's reasonable to assume that Theta-Pi is actually the symbol of the branch that communicates with the public...almost like a ministry of propaganda/communication. I think this goes beyond just "manipulating" like somebody else had alluded to, but rather deals with all communication aspects (like communicating orders to field operatives with whom they can't communicate directly, and possibly teaching, as was the case with Lucy). If this is true, then we'd have a surveillance department, and a communication department. My only issue here is that it doesn't illuminate the function of the other symbols. Even with the Theta-Mu ligature, it really says nothing of the act of "watching" but only refers to where they're looking. Either there's a big misinterpretation or we'll need more information about the divisions of the order before we can assign ligatures to them.

The previous post was done from my own work; sorry if I repeated anything already said.

I think you are right about pi. I saw someone mentioned that in another thread as well. Also, I was going between a wiki and a page that mentioned some stuff about the gods and i saw that lambda is like goats or shepards or something to do with hearding and sigma was like derived from a symboly that meant deity so i was thinking maybe lambda/sigma is like a shepard of the gods...maybe?

I havne't done too much with lambda, and that's in part b/c I'm biased... when I see it, the biggest thing that jumps into my head are the shields of the Spartans. Each one had a capital lambda on it. That being said, I've been thinking that ligature had something to do with warfare/assasination. From the Phoenician background, it comes from a letter that dealt with "36 rightous people to save the world form destruction." That doesn't match up so well. What I really like about your interpretation is that it incorporates goats/shepards which, as you may or may not know, are huge symbols in the Christian faith. I think I had read that Alistor Crowley incororated Christian symbols into his works as "manifestations." If we are to believe that the Order still deals with Crowley (and I don't see why we wouldn't) then it should follow that somewhere along the line, we'll be seeing references to dieties outside of ancient Greek and Egyptian religions. That being said, I'm pretty sure he also wrote of a Chinese God, though I can't remember where I read that.

[Opladybug]

I don't know how many of you are familiar with the deacons,but they post encrypted messages in comments.
They posted this today.

I try to leave and get pulled back in. I was contacted by the Seraph that my assistance is still needed.


Admittedly, I have given ample warnings about Jonas being a Watcher. Much like you are, I was probably wrong. Beware of the game OpAphid may be playing here, divide and conquer.

I want you to know you are missing something critical in the pictures. There is much more to them than meets the eye. Sharpen your vision blend your eyes and you will notice something that will reveal more lies.

thoughts it might be helpful...maybe.

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[KelQuelle]

oh crap. i was really hoping the pictures were just to throw us off....i couldn't see any of that stuff that everyone else was seeing

[reputationforte]

I don't know how many of you are familiar with the deacons,but they post encrypted messages in comments.
They posted this today.

I try to leave and get pulled back in. I was contacted by the Seraph that my assistance is still needed.

Admittedly, I have given ample warnings about Jonas being a Watcher. Much like you are, I was probably wrong. Beware of the game OpAphid may be playing here, divide and conquer.

I want you to know you are missing something critical in the pictures. There is much more to them than meets the eye. Sharpen your vision blend your eyes and you will notice something that will reveal more lies.

thoughts it might be helpful...maybe.

where did you find this comment? (youtube?)