0140-How Dumb Am I? [2-26-07]

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:56 pm

gigglingmonk wrote:In regards to the subject of "well, if Jonas was with them, wouldn't they not have needed help getting the ID?"..perhaps they did know where it was..and wanted to convince the fans that they didn't. Think about it, they know that Bree visits the forum, so you convince the fans, you convince Bree because she talks to them.

Also, I'm confused about something..ok, Gemma told them to stay away from the watchers..Jonas attacks a watcher..yet Oppy has said that the watchers are under her control, so the watchers are bad..but that doesn't explain why two people(if we can trust Bree in her assumption) with the order have tried to get Bree away from the watchers.

I'm really confused..and I have a ton of weird theories bouncing around my head.....involving good watchers, rebel watchers, bad Tachyon and a bunch of other things. Its confusing....

I didn't say they needed someone to help them get the ID. I said they wouldn't have needed to kidnap Daniel in order to get custody of Bree, since she was already with Jonas if he was a part of the Order.

The only thing that makes sense here is that Bree is incorrect in her assumption that Jonas is evil, or it's part of a bigger plan with (Jonas being a double agent) to set the Order up.

EDIT: No, it still doesn't make sense, because then there would have been no reason to kidnap Daniel.

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:59 pm

dogger1972 wrote:"OMG Jonas can't be evil.... he just can't!"

Why?

"Well, he's.... OMG..... he's cute!!!! and OMG shirtless!!!!"

Um.... aren't villains sexier than good guys anyway?

"Well..."

And now there's an element of danger to him that wasn't there before.......

<long pause>

"OMG!"

That didn't make sense to me.. ?

watching_watchers · Post by **watching_watchers** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:00 pm

kellylen wrote:yup the whole thing has been solved lol. the quickest ive seen it solved ever. its in parallax.

I can't seem to find it in there. =/ Its probably right under my nose too. :[ Care to copy & past it? :]

saralynn · Post by **saralynn** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:01 pm

Ohhh! This is getting interesting. Is Jonas a part of the Order, or was the watcher symbol planted? Does the Order want Bree to ditch Jonas thinking he's a traitor, so she's back to having no roof.. no resources?

If she ends up on the road again, maybe stealing Jonas' car with Daniel.. then they're back to where they started. And if they're back to where they started, maybe she'll finally get desperate, and do the ceremony to make it all stop.

Or maybe Jonas is a part of the Order, and Bree's going to unravel everything. I'm really rooting for her.. way to grow up, girl! I'm proud.

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:03 pm

http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6868

dogger1972 · Post by **dogger1972** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:04 pm

Sami wrote:
dogger1972 wrote:"OMG Jonas can't be evil.... he just can't!"

Why?

"Well, he's.... OMG..... he's cute!!!! and OMG shirtless!!!!"

Um.... aren't villains sexier than good guys anyway?

"Well..."

And now there's an element of danger to him that wasn't there before.......

<long pause>

"OMG!"
That didn't make sense to me.. ?

Just funnin' on all the Jonas swooning going on in here today

Trust me, if Jonas does turn out to be evil, honest to goodness dyed in the wool evil, then a great many of our young lady posters are going to find him even more irresistable.....

watching_watchers · Post by **watching_watchers** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:05 pm

Sami wrote:http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6868

Thanks a bunch. :]

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:07 pm

gigglingmonk wrote:Also, I'm confused about something..ok, Gemma told them to stay away from the watchers..Jonas attacks a watcher..yet Oppy has said that the watchers are under her control, so the watchers are bad..but that doesn't explain why two people(if we can trust Bree in her assumption) with the order have tried to get Bree away from the watchers.

Well, think about the same reason Gemma told them the truth about Tachyon's family or agreed with Bree's previous decision to stay away from the authorities. She had to build trust with Bree, and Jonas - who has built trust - would have to maintain it.

Not saying he's necessarily evil or that this isn't a misunderstanding somehow, but, really, even as an Op operative he would have a reason to do that.

colbertnationgirl · Post by **colbertnationgirl** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:21 pm

did the thing bree was holding look to anyone else like a piece of wood with marker drawn on it?

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:28 pm

colbertnationgirl wrote:did the thing bree was holding look to anyone else like a piece of wood with marker drawn on it?

It looked like a piece wood, with a symbol drawn with a marker on a piece of paper glued to it.

emerrs11 · Post by **emerrs11** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:32 pm

HenrySugar wrote:That wasn't the Watcher symbol. It only had two legs.
The Watcher symbol has three.
There's more than one organization. I think Jonas is still a good guy.

Bree said that it was one of the images from the file not the exact watcher symbol.

AM · Post by AM » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:33 pm

I think it would be pretty lame if it were a misunderstanding and Bree was wrong. In fact I don't believe the creators would be dumb enough to 'cry wolf' that way.

'Just kidding folks, Jonas is still good, Bree's just lost her marbles', does that sound like an effective plot device to you? No? Me either.

Also, right or wrong, Bree's in deep shit. Stealing a car, stealing a credit card, all offenses that carry jail time. But holding someone hostage in their own home, someone who can document how they've taken you in and shown you nothing but kindness, that's going to send Bree up the river for hard time. All the police are on the order's side? Well, I think Oppy holds all the cards in this little game of poker. Do the ceremony Bree or it won't just be spin art you'll be facing, it will be prison bars.

The story will take a much more exciting twist now. I can't believe so many are resistant to that.

lookinginonyou · Post by **lookinginonyou** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:36 pm

ok.. so i'm not that convinced jonas is bad.. but, i do like the ending comment from bree.. no more aminals.. :s

michiev · Post by **michiev** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:38 pm

So im putting it in here. whoever knows where it goes can move it there.

I was watching this new video and about the two legged symbol shes holding up, We all know that the three legged one means watcher but the two legged one is Pi+theta. theta tecnically means sun, and also can mean a warning of death.

But i was searching over the entire internet and nothing came up for Pi. ive been trying to figure out what it means.

does anyone have any information about this or clues or something?

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:41 pm

it really bothers me that bree didn't acknowledge daniel's last videos. did he tell them about the package from tachyon or not? wtf.

also, maybe that symbol was daniel's. dun dun dunnn

EDIT: for clarity

also, michiev, you should read through the parallex forums. there are lots of theories regarding pi and other symbols. my personal favorite is that it represents a mouth.

each symbol, like the watcher symbol, represents a different branch of the order. it is suggested that this symbol is not the watcher symbol, but one that represents the communicative section of the order.

Lonelygirl15

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