0143-What The Hell?!??!-[03/01/2007]

ShardinsKitten · Post by **ShardinsKitten** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:08 pm

nicole_x wrote:I don't know if someone has already said this,but on the tree, outside it says "POSTED" in red letters

That's just a "Posted no hunting, fishing, trespassing or you'll be prosecuted blah blah" sign. You can find them in almost ALL wooded residential areas. It doesn't mean anything here.

nicole_x · Post by **nicole_x** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:10 pm

ShardinsKitten wrote:
nicole_x wrote:I don't know if someone has already said this,but on the tree, outside it says "POSTED" in red letters
That's just a "Posted no hunting, fishing, trespassing or you'll be prosecuted blah blah" sign. You can find them in almost ALL wooded residential areas. It doesn't mean anything here.

Oh ok. Just wondering if it had any signifigance

mistabroadway · Post by **mistabroadway** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:14 pm

Also I'm pretty sure it's illegal to remove one of those, hence the creators keeping it in there.

kellylen · Post by **kellylen** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:14 pm

TommyIsCancer wrote:Anyway, I agree that the ropes look more frayed than cut. I know this makes Jonas look guilty but I still don't think he is. He could have taken his wallet and cellphone, right? So he takes the keys as well so they can't leave and the other camera so he can make a video to post. He calls a taxi and it picks him up on the road. He goes to a hotelroom so he can post a video for Daniel and Bree to explain the situation. It makes sense and it's what I'd do in his place. He wants to prove he's innocent but he can't do it tied up. He's afraid. And besides, if he was able to work the ropes over for a few days and get out of them only his wrists were zip tied. It wouldn't be hard for him to stand up and walk over to something sharp to cut the ties. Sure, he'd have a chair on him but he could move.

I don't think Daniel did it and I don't think he did it unknowingly because of some codeword Jonas said. That's just too messed up for my tastes.

this makes complete sense.

then another bree is crazy video could come out.

or jonas is going to come back and tru to kill them... im not sure. but jonas may say all that he knows in his next vid...

michiev · Post by **michiev** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:16 pm

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:My best guess (if Jonas has any ounce of sanity left in him), is that he called someone to come pick him up. I don't think Daniel cut him out either.

It also looked like the place he was in was in a basement or something, so considering it was a slide door, it may have been like a garage of some sort that someone could enter from outside.

Maybe his Order friends saw the videos and came to save him.
Or, if he ISN'T with the Order, maybe they just took him.
But then again, why would there be footprints if someone drove him away??

And what is that at the end of the video? To me it just looked like a big black wall...

And Daniel and Bree separated in the wintery woods? Oh dear.

PS: Bree is definitely losing her mind.

Grr bree has every right to act the way she was in those past videos. Even though her she let her anger get to her and was being completely irrational she has a right to act upset. because even IF jonas is innocent theres still something that bree and daniel dont know about him.

But i am really sick of people bitching about the way bree is acting. dont you think if your father was killed, you found out he wasnt your real father and you had been lied to for years, you go through all this hell, meet an old friend whos actually lying to you [gemma] about who she really is...

That you would be a little pissed off crazy angry if you saw an unidentified symbol in someones house that you thought you could trust?

I dont think it was planted either. Because jonas said its been there as long as he can remember, I wonder what else he can remember.

I dont think that bree is emo or losing her mind, and if she IS losing her mind she has every right to, she doesnt know who she can trust anymore or what she can do. shes been lied to so many times she doesnt know who to believe. and jonas really has acted suspiciously in the past.

janesalteredstates · Post by **janesalteredstates** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:18 pm

... or someone came to Jonas' aid. Someone outside. Someone who watches the videos.

Chelseyrl · Post by **Chelseyrl** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:22 pm

the lamp look tilted to me in Interrogation 101... look at the light from it on the wall...

EEVEE · Post by **EEVEE** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:23 pm

(Ok so if there's usually lots of posts I just look through maybe the first 4 and post so forgive me if this was already discussed)

Well to me, where the tracks ended, it looked like a road. So maybe Jonas got loose and took the keys so Bree and Daniel couldn't leave? So then maybe Jonas waited for a ride by the rode? I don't know...

mistabroadway · Post by **mistabroadway** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:24 pm

Posted by: Chelseyrl
the lamp look tilted to me in Interrogation 101... look at the light from it on the wall...

Ahh yes it does. Thanks

I guess Bree definitely played bad cop for a while!

I could see her twisting the lamp cover right now tell Jonas "This is going to be your neck!"

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mistabroadway · Post by **mistabroadway** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:26 pm

Oops Double Post... I forgot how to work a message board.

LONGTIMELURKER · Post by **LONGTIMELURKER** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:26 pm

i saw a lightswitch on the wall in the hallway,what does that mean ?

sorry,had to do it what w/ all the posts about the "Posted" sign...sincere aplogies....i... could...not ...help ..it ....

Cabby · Post by **Cabby** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:28 pm

I think whoever said that the ties might not be stopped by a rung in the chair, may be right.

If you look at the screen shot

It looks like the ties are decently tight around his wrists, but close to the ends of the arms of the chair. I think that with a little working (over three days) and a lot of pain, he could have gotten them off the chair.

Or Jonas cut off his hands.

bethy · Post by **bethy** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:30 pm

Chelseyrl wrote:

maybe i'm getting too anxious for answers but this scene kinda stood out to me.

why are there chairs up against this door? (as DB runs down the stairs)

honestly?? Given the number of fire extinguishers, and the "look" of the cabin there? It screams Big Bear Rental Cabin...it's used for parties or get togethers, so the chair storage makes plenty sense to me.

Cabby · Post by **Cabby** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:32 pm

Jonas couldn't have just waited to be picked up on the side of the road. He would have had to meet up with someone. Don't forget they're in the middle of nowhere where they, intentionally, could not be found. I don't think Jonas would go up there expecting someone to find him.

Why can't DB hotwire the car? I mean... he's already exhibited a few times that he's a fan of break and enter... isn't hotwiring the next step of badassery? c'mon.

kellylen · Post by **kellylen** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:33 pm

Cabby wrote:I think whoever said that the ties might not be stopped by a rung in the chair, may be right.

If you look at the screen shot

It looks like the ties are decently tight around his wrists, but close to the ends of the arms of the chair. I think that with a little working (over three days) and a lot of pain, he could have gotten them off the chair.

Or Jonas cut off his hands.

well that would explain the blood someone saw on the wall in the beginning of the vid