Why leave a van, yet take the keys?

LilyB · Post by **LilyB** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:23 pm

It wouldn't be hard to take his shoes to make a trail.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:25 pm

That seems awfully farfetched.

exanimatebylove · Post by **exanimatebylove** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:38 pm

Ziola wrote:heh...IMO, he did it just to be a jerk. I would too

I mean, my "friends" tie me up for days and play "good cop, bad cop".
I already have trust issues and this turns out to be the straw that broke the camels back. So, I take my camera and my keys (since my house key is attached) and grab a ride back to civilization with some random cowboy

Who cares what happens to those 2, they didn't care about me?

I totally agree.

RoseCrowley · Post by **RoseCrowley** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:43 pm

Well he atleast knows where all the "traps" are that he and Bree laid out! lol

exanimatebylove · Post by **exanimatebylove** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:00 pm

Maybe he's IN the car!! Anyone think of that??? Did they check?

SapereAudeo · Post by **SapereAudeo** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:17 pm

I'd agree that Jonas took the keys to keep Daniel and Bree there. It looked like his footprints ended by a road, and we know he had a cell phone that he could use to call a ride.

imogene2004 · Post by **imogene2004** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:01 pm

It's possible that he took the keys because he intended on leaving in the car, but then decided not to. Maybe he was trying to get out as quietly as possible, so he didn't take the car because he realized it'd make too much noise. It's a logical explanation I think. I thought of that because when I was in high school, my sister and I snuck out one night and we wanted to take the car, but knew it would wake up our mom. So, we put it in neutral and rolled down the street a little way before we started it and took off.

He has a cell phone, so maybe as soon as he got a little ways from the house he called for someone to pick him up, like the maybe groundskeeper or whoever he called ahead to at the cabin.

zia9497 · Post by **zia9497** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:01 pm

This is my first post here, so I hope this is the right place for it.

I mentioned this in the comments for the video before finding this thread.

If I were trying to sneak out of a house where people were holding me hostage, I certainly wouldn’t be starting up a car in the middle of the night and alerting them to my escape. If they are really out in the middle of nowhere, they are bound to hear the car’s ignition.

That’s also why I don’t think he is necessarily with the Order. Assuming that they are being watched at the cabin, if he took the car then the Order would realize that something was up, at the very least that there was one less person in the house. If he wanted to sneak out to get away from Bree and Daniel until the situation cooled off (which is what I think he is doing), then it would make sense to leave on foot, in the dark, so that neither Bree and Daniel nor anyone watching them would have an easy time of noticing.

Just my theory.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:36 pm

zia9497 wrote:If I were trying to sneak out of a house where people were holding me hostage, I certainly wouldn’t be starting up a car in the middle of the night and alerting them to my escape. If they are really out in the middle of nowhere, they are bound to hear the car’s ignition.

Why would they be able to stop him, though? It would take all of 6 seconds to crank up the car and go. Even if they got to the vehicle before he could pull away, they wouldn't be able to stop him (as long as he locked the doors).

zia9497 wrote:Assuming that they are being watched at the cabin, if he took the car then the Order would realize that something was up, at the very least that there was one less person in the house.

Wouldn't they know anyway because of the videos?

Welcome to the forum, by the way. You did find the right place.

Krielok · Post by **Krielok** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:17 am

In all honesty, I'd have to question why a guy who was just tied up, even by his friends (also has trust issues) wouldn't take the car. Being quiet isn't a problem at this point as I'm pretty sure they only had one car, right? Why wouldn't you take the car? They're in the middle of nowhere. Unless there was someone close by who could pick him up. I personally wouldn't have taken the risk.

Leading me to believe he'd have to know someone else, most likely involved, not just some random friend. Pretty much saying he lied afterall. Though I'd like to see him still be a face after this. It's not looking like it though. It's going to be a fun weekend.

$/.\$

angie78gg · Post by **angie78gg** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:42 am

Well, sometimes once you visit looneyville. You dont come back the same. I think he took them because he is mad.. Kinda like well I will show u.. For all they know he is hding out somewhere in the house still... GRRRRRR get em Jonas!!! Well since, him and Bree have officially gone nuts!

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:48 am

zia9497 wrote:This is my first post here, so I hope this is the right place for it.

I mentioned this in the comments for the video before finding this thread.

If I were trying to sneak out of a house where people were holding me hostage, I certainly wouldn’t be starting up a car in the middle of the night and alerting them to my escape. If they are really out in the middle of nowhere, they are bound to hear the car’s ignition.

That’s also why I don’t think he is necessarily with the Order. Assuming that they are being watched at the cabin, if he took the car then the Order would realize that something was up, at the very least that there was one less person in the house. If he wanted to sneak out to get away from Bree and Daniel until the situation cooled off (which is what I think he is doing), then it would make sense to leave on foot, in the dark, so that neither Bree and Daniel nor anyone watching them would have an easy time of noticing.

Just my theory.

Good theory. Most likely, Jonas knows his way around that wooded area, so it doesn't seem strange to think that he just walked off. The biggest question here isn't just why did he take the keys and not the van, but if he took a video camera, how is he going to upload a video? He can't upload it from a tree.

There must have been somewhere he was going--or to someone.

loobylou · Post by **loobylou** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:24 pm

I think he left the van to make it clear to us that Jonas is not acting alone at the moment. Had he driven off, it may have looked like the action of one man, but because he must have gotten a lift at some point it points to him having contact with someone - a friend / oppy / tachy - who knows??

I don't believe he just headed off in the snow - that would be madness even if he knows the area. This way, perhaps he lulls Daniel and Bree into thinking he's acting alone.

Laurilea · Post by **Laurilea** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:34 pm

He would probably want to have his house keys with him, so he'd take the whole keyring.

Maybe he didn't take the car because he didn't want to alert Bree and Daniel that he had left? Maybe he wanted a head start - not because he thought they could catch him on foot if he had a car, but because he wouldn't want them necessarily to leave right away.

If he's good, that could be because he wanted the chance to film his defense.

If he's not good, it could be to trap them for OpAHID.

McPackage · Post by **McPackage** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:41 pm

Or Daniel has the keys.