 
 I'm a little confused. How did they know the father wasn't part of the order and what was the paper about?
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 ha, I know that hot guys tend to be gay.. BUT NOT JONAS!! He's too hottAM wrote:Thanks Lurker for your reply to my post.
Ever since the 'How Dumb am I' video I see a distinct anti-Bree vs. pro-Jonas mood brewing in the forum. Yes Jonas is likable and Bree is not, no question. But I think many want Jonas to be innocent so badly that they are in danger of missing or ignoring obvious signs? IOW, the 'how dumb am I?" title might just as well apply to us if we too are snowed by Jonases charms.
Oh, and Jonas is definitely gay. No straight guy would say 'three's a crowd' no matter how annoying and whiney the girl was, even if he had been just tied up. Sorry, that sealed it for me. Either that or he's a plant from the Order trying to tear Bree and Daniel apart by first bonding with one and then the other, wedging himself in between them by any means possible.
Possible yes, but not everything is probable.sparkybennett wrote:Mvidrine wrote:For those who think its tiKo, I seriously doubt it. To bring tiKo into the picture would back HSA canon. Considering the uproar that arose when OpAphid became canon I doubt they would do that again. While OpAphid herself has talking about noncanon people in her youtube account and through e-mails (Lordgreystoke, Nikki B) I doubt the creators would talk about a non canon storyline in a video
anything is possible
that's the beauty of it
I am so in love with Lurker!!jeezy wrote:Man... you're always on top of it... Good job!Lurker wrote:I think saying he's been "proven innocent" is a bit strong. Granted, you're not wrong that his behavior and all the chances he would have had to screw them in any number of ways - but didn't - would suggest he isn't, but it's still not proven.PixieSailor wrote:I verly clearly looked at both sides from all angles, and I think Jonas is innocent. At first I was certain he wasn't, but all ALL the signs point to him being innocent. He really has had thousands of chances to turn bree and danial in to the order, and everything he's done since bree went off has proven him to be innocent. Him getting angry, him running, how weary he looks in the car. The fact that he's pissed as you know what in the car.
And, really, it is crazy far beyond the point of suspicion if he's claiming to have never known about the Order before watching Bree's videos when his parents were apparently their opponents to some degree. For him to have invited them to his house and put his fortune and life on the line to this extent without knowing anything is somewhat hard to believe.
Sure it's possible, but few things aren't. Given the connections the Order - or Tachyon's group, for that matter - is supposed to have and how Gemma was a plant, it's all a little supsicious.
Again, throwing out my disclaimer, I'm not saying he's bad and I don't want to think he is. I, in fact, have come to like him a lot and even trust him (he's still second to the Beast, though, for me). But to argue that there's nothing to go on to suggest he's not telling everything he knows (whether that mean he's good, bad, or somewhere inbetween) seems to be overlooking some things to me. Of course, it could turn out that he really didn't know anything and this was all one big joke by fate, but I just don't think that seems likely.
 Lurker!!  He is my King.
 Lurker!!  He is my King.    I bow to no other.
   I bow to no other.No offense, voyboy, but this has been pointed out over and over.voyboy wrote:mskelly - HSA- is funded by the TIKO Foundation - JonasTKO....
Is anyone thinking what I'm thinking?
It seems to me that HSA is going to become canon. There are just too many coincidences, and the quality of the videos is amazing! Ms. Kelly hasn't posted a video that didn't get five stars in the last two weeks (I believe, if not accurate, it's close); and before that, I think she only had one that scored below four stars. I think her addition to the storyline would be awesome.sparkybennett wrote:I thought of Tiko right away.delilahtyler wrote:i todally think what you think voyboy, said so about a million moons ago!
gotta be the tiko foundation.
maybe ms kelly is jonas's aunt...
We (hsa followers) had noticed that Tiko was formed the same year that Jonas was born. (if I remember correctly)
and although Ms Kelly may not seem "anti order" as someone mentioned, she was initially resistant to Tiko, she wanted their funding but did not follow their recommended curriculum.
She recently was held prisoner by Tiko because of her resistance and since returning has been undergoing a transformation of some sort.
I think it would be awesome if the foundation was Tiko! It definitely has alot of connections, hopefully not all coincidence!
 Lurker!!  He is my King.
 Lurker!!  He is my King.    I bow to no other.
   I bow to no other.Wouldn't the mom thing be a normal reaction, though? I'm sick of people criticizing the Creators for things that make absolute sense, such as the old criticism about sending another agent would be redundant. While it might be redundant in some poster's eyes, it is what the Order would do, and so makes perfect sense to the storyline.EternalConfusion wrote: And why every time Bree open her mom, she sounds like shes going to cry? I'm so sick of it!! To think that a series beginning w/ the most well loved girl is the most hated.
Just remember that Bree is supposed to be a former student of HSA.joygasm wrote:Oh Crap! Now I have to go back and watch all these Ms. Kelly videos! I haven't even been keeping up with the fanvids, but if there is even a possibility of Ms. Kelly becoming cannon, I gotta catch up on it all...