Just to let u know, Even though J's pissed @ u, it's cool.

Balmung · Post by **Balmung** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:04 am

Jonas obviously cares about you a lot [not necessarily as more than a friend, just he cares for your safety], or he would never have gone to the trouble of clearing his name [except maybe to the viewers], and he certainly wouldn't have taken you with him. And as far as him being pissed at you goes, can you blame him? You tied him up in a room and threatened to just leave him. But he'll get over it. He proved himself a true man by coming back to get you. So just just kiss his-- nose.. for a while, and it'll all be fine.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:59 pm

I'm not so sure.

heyiknowsyou · Post by **heyiknowsyou** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:32 pm

jonas does have a lovely-- nose.

bluejay · Post by **bluejay** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:58 pm

Bree, I think you should be careful. A lot of us here aren't really sure that Jonas has proved his innocence. Could you and Jonas post a video where you tell us much more about what he remembers about his parents, what was found in the cabin's attic, and so on? We'd like to help you figure things out, but we don't really have enough information to go on, here!

silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:56 pm

Bree, I don't think Jonas has to prove his innocence any more than you do. I'm sure that if we went to your house, there would be plenty of symbols that could be found.

Does that mean that you are in the Order? Shouldn't you have seen them before? If they are in your parents house, surely that means that you are in the Order as well and should prove that you aren't one of "them"? No?

Sounds pretty familiar, doesn't it? Jonas risked his butt, his home, a car and a credit card on you! Give him a break and let him get over being mad at you.

And in the future, stop and think before you accuse people.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:24 pm

silvermoon wrote:Bree, I don't think Jonas has to prove his innocence any more than you do. I'm sure that if we went to your house, there would be plenty of symbols that could be found.

Does that mean that you are in the Order? Shouldn't you have seen them before? If they are in your parents house, surely that means that you are in the Order as well and should prove that you aren't one of "them"? No?

Sounds pretty familiar, doesn't it? Jonas risked his butt, his home, a car and a credit card on you! Give him a break and let him get over being mad at you.

And in the future, stop and think before you accuse people.

I agree with much of what silvermoon has to say here, Bree (you handled that situation badly, and needed to have given Jonas more benefit of the doubt considering your own parents), but I still have to say that it seems unlikely Jonas doesn't know something more than he's let on. What are the chances he'd invite you and Daniel to come stay with him, and then you guys randomly found out that he just happened to be the son of opponents of the Order?

I do think he's on your side, but have you asked him this question? Has he tried to explain how such a convenient turn of events came to be, or have you guys not really talked about it? Or have you talked about it, but you believe that it really just was a crazy turn of fate?

Loki · Post by **Loki** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:56 am

Although I side with OpAphid, I feel like I have to say this:

Your apology to poor Jonas sounded rather backhanded to me. "I just... thought you were one of them." is no excuse for what you did to the boy. You say things to those of us who care to watch, which you should be saying to him. Don't tell us you were wrong. We already know that. It's Jonas you should be telling that to. Get on your knees and beg for his forgiveness if that's what it takes.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:07 am

A considerate, honest, and well-balanced Op minion. You know what, Loki, you're okay. Just lose the psycho bitch.

Loki · Post by **Loki** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:01 am

I do try to be fair-minded. It's not fair to condemn you all for being so willfully blind. I'm sure you'll come to see it our way sooner or later.

As for the losing the "psycho bitch" part... I don't think that'll be happening anytime soon. As far as I'm concerned, Tachyon is the only one who falls into that particular category. Op is nothing like psycho, nor does she seem to be of the canine persuasion... she's quite human.

exanimatebylove · Post by **exanimatebylove** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:45 pm

Loki wrote:Although I side with OpAphid, I feel like I have to say this:

Your apology to poor Jonas sounded rather backhanded to me. "I just... thought you were one of them." is no excuse for what you did to the boy. You say things to those of us who care to watch, which you should be saying to him. Don't tell us you were wrong. We already know that. It's Jonas you should be telling that to. Get on your knees and beg for his forgiveness if that's what it takes.

Thank u. Her apology SUCKED.