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Oh, yes, I definately think he knows more than he is letting on, and I haven't switched sides just yet. And, an evil Jonas is just more fun.Lurker wrote:Do you still think he knew something about the Order or anti-Order before asking B&D to come stay with him, though?longlostposter wrote:Wow, I'm think I'm starting to talk myself into thinking Jonas is a good guy.
Good point about the together.Lurker wrote:Maybe not. OpAphid wasn't afraid to show her face on camera.HisGirl wrote:here's another thought... if these ppl are really order- why on earth would they let the boyz leave with their video camera for all the world to see? wouldn't a top secret order want to secure any footage of their faces? veeeery strange.
Then again, I would think they'd be a little concerned to have their faces shown together.
I don't find it weird either. Jonas has said he doesn't like drinking much anymore (his behavior when drunk is embarrassing), and that he isn't much on drinking crowds (why he doesn't go to the bowling alley anymore). Also, if he knows that these people are Order, and he is there for investigative purposes only, then it would stand to reason that he would just observe them and not participate. Also, we know Jonas has problems socializing, according to his earlier videos. There are a myriad of reasons why Jonas felt the need to separate himself.Lurker wrote:It didn't seem that weird to me. Daniel was wandering around filming people.raptattention wrote:It was also weird that Jonas was standing in a corner by himself. If you go to a party and only know one person, don't you usually stick with them? It's like he needed to separate himself for some reason.
megs229 wrote:Kasdeja wrote:I think the only thing that looks like Nikki about that girl is the ponytail and she has brown hair.
I don't think that the one girl looked like Nikki B but the picture with Lucy kind of did, although I don't think it is really her.
Very good point. I forgot all about that!kjones wrote:megs229 wrote:Kasdeja wrote:I think the only thing that looks like Nikki about that girl is the ponytail and she has brown hair.
I don't think that the one girl looked like Nikki B but the picture with Lucy kind of did, although I don't think it is really her.
I agree that it probably isn't Nikki in the photo. Remember the vid when Nikki is on Lucy's balcony and we see Lucy take out the two martini glasses? Did we ever find out who the second glass was for? Because I think who ever it was is the person in that photo.
thx man! me to.megs229 wrote:I'm sooo bored that I am sitting here waiting for people to post lol but anyways....kjones wrote:I don't think I have watched a LG15 video yet with soooooo many different clues and questions attached to it. So much to watch and rewatch in this vid.
Loving the avatar kjones!
I don't think that makes sense though.longlostposter wrote:Yeah, I don't get why some people are asking why Alex and Lucy's pic would be at a random house. THAT'S THE POINT...we are thinking it's not a random house or party, but a get-together of the Orderites. If Alex is Order, and Lucy is Order, and the house is an Orderite's house, then it makes perfect sense.Kasdeja wrote:Nah, the quoting thingy does weird things sometimes.
I wanted to add to some of the issues with it being Alex in the pic. It may not be her, however...it's a pic of Lucy in the home of one of Alex's friends, right? That still poses the same sort of problem, regardless of if it's Alex with her or not...obviously Alex is friends with the person in the pic...
Unless...they hold very high positions in the Order. Other possibility: It is Alex's ex's house.PixieSailor wrote:I don't think that makes sense though.longlostposter wrote:Yeah, I don't get why some people are asking why Alex and Lucy's pic would be at a random house. THAT'S THE POINT...we are thinking it's not a random house or party, but a get-together of the Orderites. If Alex is Order, and Lucy is Order, and the house is an Orderite's house, then it makes perfect sense.Kasdeja wrote:Nah, the quoting thingy does weird things sometimes.
I wanted to add to some of the issues with it being Alex in the pic. It may not be her, however...it's a pic of Lucy in the home of one of Alex's friends, right? That still poses the same sort of problem, regardless of if it's Alex with her or not...obviously Alex is friends with the person in the pic...
I mean, if there were more pictures there of other people with order watchers it'd be plausible, but it doesn't make sense for there to be one picture only of two people that don't even live there.
PixieSailor wrote:I don't think that makes sense though.longlostposter wrote:Yeah, I don't get why some people are asking why Alex and Lucy's pic would be at a random house. THAT'S THE POINT...we are thinking it's not a random house or party, but a get-together of the Orderites. If Alex is Order, and Lucy is Order, and the house is an Orderite's house, then it makes perfect sense.Kasdeja wrote:Nah, the quoting thingy does weird things sometimes.
I wanted to add to some of the issues with it being Alex in the pic. It may not be her, however...it's a pic of Lucy in the home of one of Alex's friends, right? That still poses the same sort of problem, regardless of if it's Alex with her or not...obviously Alex is friends with the person in the pic...
I mean, if there were more pictures there of other people with order watchers it'd be plausible, but it doesn't make sense for there to be one picture only of two people that don't even live there.
I don't think Carl was starting a fight with Daniel at all. Carl seemed like he genuinely wanted to talk to Danny. He even told him to come back anytime (and not in a sarcastic way either).imogene2004 wrote:Ok the guy talking to Daniel at the end, I think his name is supposed to be Carl, anyway, I don't think he was fighting with DB. I think he was trying to get a story, maybe he's a reporter too. Either that or he's another gay guy hitting on the sexy beast
Maybe he wanted to talk to Daniel and not pick a fight but I really doubt he is a reporter. If anything I think Beast might have started spilling his guts and the guy was trying to act like a friend to get info out of him. In a way though it did look like he wanted to be friendly but then again I have also seen people act like that being really sarcastic about it but really wanting to fight. So I dunno. But either way I think that Beast started spilling his guts about the order or started talking trash about getting with Alex for that guy to be soo interested in him.imogene2004 wrote:I'm reposting my post from last night because alot of people are still saying that the guy at the end was picking a fight with Daniel. After rewatching it several times I still think this is what happened.
I don't think Carl was starting a fight with Daniel at all. Carl seemed like he genuinely wanted to talk to Danny. He even told him to come back anytime (and not in a sarcastic way either).imogene2004 wrote:Ok the guy talking to Daniel at the end, I think his name is supposed to be Carl, anyway, I don't think he was fighting with DB. I think he was trying to get a story, maybe he's a reporter too. Either that or he's another gay guy hitting on the sexy beast
imogene2004 wrote:I'm reposting my post from last night because alot of people are still saying that the guy at the end was picking a fight with Daniel. After rewatching it several times I still think this is what happened.
I don't think Carl was starting a fight with Daniel at all. Carl seemed like he genuinely wanted to talk to Danny. He even told him to come back anytime (and not in a sarcastic way either).imogene2004 wrote:Ok the guy talking to Daniel at the end, I think his name is supposed to be Carl, anyway, I don't think he was fighting with DB. I think he was trying to get a story, maybe he's a reporter too. Either that or he's another gay guy hitting on the sexy beast
I totally agree with you on that one! Almost like he was going to warn Jonas or something, at least tell him something really important. The look on Toby's face the whole time Jonas was talking to Beth was really interesting!selena wrote:I had kind of a different take on Toby. A lot of people seem to think he was being creepy or insincere. (Okay, creepy remains to be seen. lol.) But it seemed to me more like he was genuinely relieved to see Jonas... like, *Dude, I've got so much to tell you!* But as soon as Beth butted in he clammed right up and went away. He says. "Actually, she's uhh... *grimace* ...a reporter." I have a feeling Toby has quite a bit to say that could be interesting, but he couldn't talk in front of Beth.
kjones wrote: Hmm. I disagree. I totally got the "mach" guy vibe from Carl. It was almost like he was marking his territory the way he was taunting Daniel when he told him that that he wanted to talk to him. Especially when Alex got in the middle and tried to seperate Carl from Daniel.
I got the impression that "talk" meant kick the crap out of Daniel.
The guy seemed like a total neanderthal to me.
I agree... I got that feel from him too.kjones wrote:Hmm. I disagree. I totally got the "mach" guy vibe from Carl. It was almost like he was marking his territory the way he was taunting Daniel when he told him that that he wanted to talk to him. Especially when Alex got in the middle and tried to seperate Carl from Daniel.
I got the impression that "talk" meant kick the crap out of Daniel.
The guy seemed like a total neanderthal to me.
