Alex's Parents? Picture of Lucy? Things don't add up.

[mellie3204]

and why does that guy say to Jonas "Well I'll let you catch up with everyone" after he introduces Jonas to the "reporter" if Jonas hasn't seen his Aunt in years and presumably wouldn't have ever met her "fashion industry friends"???

Because both Alex and Jonas are working for the Order and knew everyone in the room.

Hmmm I didn't get that from it at all... I kinda thought the point was the Toby character was just looking for a way to politely get the heck away from Jonus... which is just strange.

Jonus is his cousin, why wasn't he happy to see Jonus and want to spend time catching up?

Unless... he knows something about Jonus's parents disappearing???

He's got a really guilty/scared look to me...

[cittiecait]

But him 'catching up' could also refer to Jonas catching up with his 'family' members. His 'cousin' was there, and seeing as how his Aunt just arrived home from her trip perhaps there were other members of the 'family' there as well?.

but what would jonas' family be doing at a fashion party???

[Lurker]

and why does that guy say to Jonas "Well I'll let you catch up with everyone" after he introduces Jonas to the "reporter" if Jonas hasn't seen his Aunt in years and presumably wouldn't have ever met her "fashion industry friends"???

Because both Alex and Jonas are working for the Order and knew everyone in the room.

Hmmm I didn't get that from it at all... I kinda thought the point was the Toby character was just looking for a way to politely get the heck away from Jonus... which is just strange.

Jonus is his cousin, why wasn't he happy to see Jonus and want to spend time catching up?

Unless... he knows something about Jonus's parents disappearing???

He's got a really guilty/scared look to me...

Maybe Toby and Jonas never knew each other very well. They may not have had anything to talk about, really.

[exanimatebylove]

but what would jonas' family be doing at a fashion party???

That doesnt make sense either.

[cosmicdancer]

But him 'catching up' could also refer to Jonas catching up with his 'family' members. His 'cousin' was there, and seeing as how his Aunt just arrived home from her trip perhaps there were other members of the 'family' there as well?.

but what would jonas' family be doing at a fashion party???

I don't know, but his cousin was there. :/.

[cosmicdancer]

Maybe because it's the first social outing Alex has appeared at since returning from overseas.

[Slackey4318]

I think you people are reading way too much into this. Toby (Jonas' cousin) didn't want to talk to him because he hasnt seen him since the funeral. That was a loooong time ago. He just wanted to avoid an awkward moment with a family member he knows little/nothing about. I'm pretty sure we've all had moments like that.

As far for Jonas being in The Order, I don't think the all knowing Tachyon and Brother would stayed the weekend (as mentioned by Bree in the video after they rescued Daniel) with someone from the Order. Or let Bree be in the same house with him. Besides, they did that storyline with Gemma. The creators wouldn't dare pull off a rehash of an old storyarc, would they? (That last stement is just wishful thinking. It's a possiblity, but I'd be really mad if it's the truth).

As for Alex, it's no doubt in my mind that's Lucy with her in the photo. A girl that resembles Lucy and dresses like her EXACTLY? And it's was clearly in the video so we'd all notice it? Way too much of a coincidence! I don't know if Alex is in The Order or not, but I'm gonna be the optimist in the bunch and say that she's not. We don't know how much she really knows about the Order herself. Maybe she figured out that those dead people were connected with Jonas' parents death and little else. Just like Jonas had an instinct that he was somehow connected to Bree's plight and just didn't know how. Ever considered the possibility that Alex knows less than Jonas does and Lucy (knowing this) made friends with Alex, gained her trust, just so she can keep an eye out/ deceive one of the people that could jeopardize The Order's plans?

[cosmicdancer]

I think you people are reading way too much into this. Toby (Jonas' cousin) didn't want to talk to him because he hasnt seen him since the funeral. That was a loooong time ago. He just wanted to avoid an awkward moment with a family member he knows little/nothing about. I'm pretty sure we've all had moments like that.

As far for Jonas being in The Order, I don't think the all knowing Tachyon and Brother would stayed the weekend (as mentioned by Bree in the video after they rescued Daniel) with someone from the Order. Or let Bree be in the same house with him. Besides, they did that storyline with Gemma. The creators wouldn't dare pull off a rehash of an old storyarc, would they? (That last stement is just wishful thinking. It's a possiblity, but I'd be really mad if it's the truth).

As for Alex, it's no doubt in my mind that's Lucy with her in the photo. A girl that resembles Lucy and dresses like her EXACTLY? And it's was clearly in the video so we'd all notice it? Way too much of a coincidence! I don't know if Alex is in The Order or not, but I'm gonna be the optimist in the bunch and say that she's not. We don't know how much she really knows about the Order herself. Maybe she figured out that those dead people were connected with Jonas' parents death and little else. Just like Jonas had an instinct that he was somehow connected to Bree's plight and just didn't know how. Ever considered the possibility that Alex knows less than Jonas does and Lucy (knowing this) made friends with Alex, gained her trust, just so she can keep an eye out/ deceive one of the people that could jeopardize The Order's plans?

1. We always read too much into things

2. I think its safe to say in the remix Toby seemed a little more than just nervous to see his cousin because he hasn't seen him in a long time. Also if you hadn't seen a family member in a long time wouldn't you be inclined to WANT to see them. I think that the way Toby was acting towards Daniel was significantly different than his reaction to seeing Jonas again.

3. As much as I love Tachyon myself and have faith in her super ninja skills, we can't just automatically assume because she's an unseen character fighting the Order that she knows everyone who is or isn't involved with the Order. While she's mighty crafty and knows how to get out of a jam (and more information than Bree does on the Order) she isn't meant to be an omniscient character. It's been made clear that the Order is a VERY widespread organization, it would be impossible for Tachyon to know every single person involved. She's trying to teach Bree to wise up so she can take care of herself. Tachyon's main agenda is to investigate the Order. Not to babysit the trio. I have a feeling Bree is going to have to be the one to uncover whatever trickery may be lurking about when she returns from Tachyons camp. Hopefully in a more rational manner than prior actions .

4. I'm still not sure that's Alex in the picture with Lucy. Anyone have a clearer shot?


I also think the idea that Lucy made friends with Alex is a possibility

[Lurker]

I think its safe to say in the remix Toby seemed a little more than just nervous to see his cousin because he hasn't seen him in a long time. Also if you hadn't seen a family member in a long time wouldn't you be inclined to WANT to see them.

As somebody with a lot of personal experience in that area, I'm going to say no. But you may well be right that it was the Creators' intention to suggest there was something else at work.

Personally, I think it could have as easily been that he hadn't seem him in a long time and he didn't want to have an awkward moment because of the last occassion on which they'd seen each other as it could have been that he knows something sinister happened and was feeling guilty or nervous over that.

I'm still not sure that's Alex in the picture with Lucy. Anyone have a clearer shot?

I'm still not convinced either.

[colbertnationgirl]

There was a really clear shot posted in the Video thread. It really looked like her. I can try to find it...

[colbertnationgirl]

It really looks like Alex to me.

[JRae]

Maybe Lucy was Alex's "helper" at some point?

Enh, I think we would've had some other clue if Alex had been chosen for the ceremony in the past- like when Daniel mentioned the Order to her she didn't react.

UNLESS she is a member of the Order, of course, and hiding her knowledge of it.

The thing is, we know about the file in her office, so we KNOW she knows about the Order- so it's REALLY suspicious that she didn't react when Daniel mentioned that.

When that guy mentions getting her nephew's file- maybe it's because he doesn't want Jonas seeing what's in there.

Either he's anti-order and worried that Jonas might be hurt or targeted somehow because of what he may learn from the file- or pro-order and trying to limit Jonas' knowledge for obvious reasons.

Hmmph... well either the party had some pro-order attendees, anti-order attendees, or a mix of both. At least we know the order was involved somehow in this party!!!

[Lurker]

Maybe Lucy was Alex's "helper" at some point?

I assume something bad happens to these girls when they do the ceremony, so I doubt Alex was ever used in one. Tachyon seemed to imply that her sister's gone - I don't know if that means dead or what.

The thing is, we know about the file in her office, so we KNOW she knows about the Order- so it's REALLY suspicious that she didn't react when Daniel mentioned that.

She might know about it. We don't know for sure that she does. All Jonas mentioned that was in that scrapbook he found is a bunch of news articles on all the people who were on the CC list of Jonas' father's document.

I would say she does know about the Order, but it's not definite.

[longlostposter]

2. I think its safe to say in the remix Toby seemed a little more than just nervous to see his cousin because he hasn't seen him in a long time. Also if you hadn't seen a family member in a long time wouldn't you be inclined to WANT to see them. I think that the way Toby was acting towards Daniel was significantly different than his reaction to seeing Jonas again.

Personally, I think it could have as easily been that he hadn't seem him in a long time and he didn't want to have an awkward moment because of the last occassion on which they'd seen each other as it could have been that he knows something sinister happened and was feeling guilty or nervous over that.

Has anyone considered that he might be afraid he will bring back Jonas's childhood memory of his parent's going missing? I know I'd be worried about that.

Do people that are "lost at sea" have funerals or memorial services, or is either one a possibility?

[agent_fondue]

It really looks like Alex to me.

so lets say this is Alex, for arguments sake. I think her clothes are also suspect. Its off the sholder and then some silver thing (possibly necklace) around the neck and shoulder. Its either formalish which suggests they were at some sort of event or its a robe of some sort which suggests a ceramony perhaps?

that all could be ridiculously far fetched but I thought I would throw it out there.