This picture isn't exact but it's close:
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-b ... ction=work
Where is Frank's Painting? 10-5-06
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To me the original crop of the painting looks like someone placing a goblet into the coffin of someone that is ready for burial. The portion of the arm on the upper right looks like a partial of the regular crossed arms position like they do for the dead. The body is propped a little as if on display at a wake, with either an ornate lacy pillow behind the head of the dead, or a large lacy veil.
I did a search for hours using words like that for the painting search, but nothing.
If anything, that makes sense for a cup being dropped at a cemetary.
I did a search for hours using words like that for the painting search, but nothing.
If anything, that makes sense for a cup being dropped at a cemetary.
If that's true, what about the possibility of mummification? When mummies were made, jewels and things like that were wrapped into the mummy, and treasures were put into the sarcophagus (sp?). Could it be that, and not a coffin?Jana4 wrote:To me the original crop of the painting looks like someone placing a goblet into the coffin of someone that is ready for burial. The portion of the arm on the upper right looks like a partial of the regular crossed arms position like they do for the dead. The body is propped a little as if on display at a wake, with either an ornate lacy pillow behind the head of the dead, or a large lacy veil.
I've been a lurker for a while but...here's a question....
Are you sure this is the picture Frank means? How did Frank know the picture was missing? Because he saw the empty frame in his room (as someone else said, an odd frame for a drifter in a hotel) or is it that he saw "his picture" in one of the videos and only then realized it was missing.
Are you sure this is the picture Frank means? How did Frank know the picture was missing? Because he saw the empty frame in his room (as someone else said, an odd frame for a drifter in a hotel) or is it that he saw "his picture" in one of the videos and only then realized it was missing.
Lola wrote:I've been a lurker for a while but...here's a question....
Are you sure this is the picture Frank means? How did Frank know the picture was missing? Because he saw the empty frame in his room (as someone else said, an odd frame for a drifter in a hotel) or is it that he saw "his picture" in one of the videos and only then realized it was
missing.
This is a good point. Maybe the picture of the chalice was only to symbolize someone being a "vessel."
I think the chalice in the picture was taken from one of the "bacchus and ariadne wining" paintings, there are tons of them so i don't know which one really.
There you see "putti" (cherubs or children), satyrs and nymphs dancing and wining around Bacchus and Ariadne in a bacchanal. Those hands look to me like children's hands, ginving a chalice of wine to someone (he could easily be Bacchus/Dionysus): here there's a painting http://pintura.aut.org/SearchProducto?Produnum=132481.
While it's not the same painting, i've seen at least 5 paintings like this, and there are tons of them, so i guess it could be something like this.
It makes sense: the poem refers to the "garden wher the killer wined".
I don't think it's the same painting Frank's lost, anyway.
There you see "putti" (cherubs or children), satyrs and nymphs dancing and wining around Bacchus and Ariadne in a bacchanal. Those hands look to me like children's hands, ginving a chalice of wine to someone (he could easily be Bacchus/Dionysus): here there's a painting http://pintura.aut.org/SearchProducto?Produnum=132481.
While it's not the same painting, i've seen at least 5 paintings like this, and there are tons of them, so i guess it could be something like this.
It makes sense: the poem refers to the "garden wher the killer wined".
I don't think it's the same painting Frank's lost, anyway.
Interesting - though probably coincidental - article
Reading back through the poem I still can't get my head around the 'So depicts a rose in soil fenced' line.
This line immediately follows a reference to the picture (The picture has not yet commenced), so maybe the 'So depicts a rose' line is telling us what is in Frank's missing painting ?
Thought I would do some Googling on this topic and the fourth link to show up (on a term of 'depicts a rose in soil fenced painting') was :-
http://outside.away.com/outside/magazin ... 7dark.html
Which is nota painting, but is about the Angeles National Forest - which I believe is where East Fork etc. is.
It mentions a pentagram, bodies in bags, an East Fork Canyon baptism (with a photo which could almost be the swimming hole)
As someone has said before though, probably just a result of my brain making connections that aren't really there.
This line immediately follows a reference to the picture (The picture has not yet commenced), so maybe the 'So depicts a rose' line is telling us what is in Frank's missing painting ?
Thought I would do some Googling on this topic and the fourth link to show up (on a term of 'depicts a rose in soil fenced painting') was :-
http://outside.away.com/outside/magazin ... 7dark.html
Which is nota painting, but is about the Angeles National Forest - which I believe is where East Fork etc. is.
It mentions a pentagram, bodies in bags, an East Fork Canyon baptism (with a photo which could almost be the swimming hole)
As someone has said before though, probably just a result of my brain making connections that aren't really there.
Re: Interesting - though probably coincidental - article
The photo of the East Fork boptisimSteveP wrote:Reading back through the poem I still can't get my head around the 'So depicts a rose in soil fenced' line.
This line immediately follows a reference to the picture (The picture has not yet commenced), so maybe the 'So depicts a rose' line is telling us what is in Frank's missing painting ?
Thought I would do some Googling on this topic and the fourth link to show up (on a term of 'depicts a rose in soil fenced painting') was :-
http://outside.away.com/outside/magazin ... 7dark.html
Which is nota painting, but is about the Angeles National Forest - which I believe is where East Fork etc. is.
It mentions a pentagram, bodies in bags, an East Fork Canyon baptism (with a photo which could almost be the swimming hole)
As someone has said before though, probably just a result of my brain making connections that aren't really there.
