0157-"Alex Is..."[3-17-07]

nicole_x · Post by **nicole_x** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:56 am

FH14 wrote: Or it's possible they're under some sort of Trance and being held by the order. Simular to the state Daniel was in when he was kidnapped.

That's what I think. The Order probably brainwashed Jonas' parents. Cause you don't just "forget" your son. Alex also said that they were "very busy." Could they be working for they Order?

FH14 · Post by **FH14** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:06 am

nicole_x wrote:That's what I think. The Order probably brainwashed Jonas' parents. Cause you don't just "forget" your son. Alex also said that they were "very busy." Could they be working for they Order?

Possibly. Perhaps they've been assigned to do what Bree's parents were doing (raising a child that wasn't their own).

Another random idea: remember that Nikki Bower video where Nikki was spying on Lucy. Lucy poured two glasses of champagne (I can't spell today), and was clearly expecting someone else. Maybe her vistor was ALEX?

sweetie55 · Post by **sweetie55** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:10 am

FH14 wrote:
Possibly. Perhaps they've been assigned to do what Bree's parents were doing (raising a child that wasn't their own).

Another random idea: remember that Nikki Bower video where Nikki was spying on Lucy. Lucy poured two glasses of champagne (I can't spell today), and was clearly expecting someone else. Maybe her vistor was ALEX?

I was totally thinking that too! And Like how they used that song since my name is Elise! Now I feel more Order-ish!

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:14 am

Hippie wrote: Daniel is once again a hostage... but for who? the order is the obvious answer, though auntie leave slight wiggle room...

As has been said over and over again in this thread, Jonas's video description says both him and Daniel got out.

Hippie wrote:Looking forward to more, but something damn well better spark a new chapter in LG15, as the chapter we are on is getting long and repetitive...

Are you saying this because you believed that Daniel was once again a hostage? I hope so, because I thought the vid was excellent.

Melisa · Post by **Melisa** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:21 am

Wow. I know we all expected this to happen but I'm still in shock. :}

bluejay · Post by **bluejay** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:21 am

Languorous Lass wrote:
Remember, though, that Bree specifically said that her dad said that "girls who show potential, at birth," are placed in "controlled homes" to see if, at puberty, they "develop the characteristics needed for the ceremony."

Despite our rampant speculations, so far we have absolutely no evidence that boys raised in the Order are needed for the ceremony. So there's no reason to think that Jonas was removed from the home of his natural parents.

Wow, nice catch, Lass! I didn't remember that.

PinkoLady · Post by **PinkoLady** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:40 am

Lurker wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:What i don't understand is why Alex says something is going to come after her..
I think she means "after" in the sense of "what's next." Maybe the Order's been doing this thing in stages. If Alex was Infiltrating (the "I" in "APHID"), perhaps there's going to be some Destroying next.

You think she meant chronologically, "after?" I guess that could be the case, though that's generally not what people mean when they say something like "something is coming after me." She might have said like "what's coming next" or something to effect.

It definitely might have just been slightly odd wording on her part.

sparrow · Post by **sparrow** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:46 am

PinkoLady wrote:
Lurker wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:What i don't understand is why Alex says something is going to come after her..
I think she means "after" in the sense of "what's next." Maybe the Order's been doing this thing in stages. If Alex was Infiltrating (the "I" in "APHID"), perhaps there's going to be some Destroying next.
You think she meant chronologically, "after?" I guess that could be the case, though that's generally not what people mean when they say something like "something is coming after me." She might have said like "what's coming next" or something to effect.

It definitely might have just been slightly odd wording on her part.

I don't think the wording is odd. As has been mentioned earlier, it was a very biblical way to phrase things. And you know what they say about biblical proportions.

"I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire." - Matthew 3:11-12

islandlove · Post by **islandlove** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:01 pm

whoaa

Incognito · Post by **Incognito** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:05 pm

i was right!!! i remember predicting in another thread that jonas's parents were still alive. fun fun.

could alex also be brainwashed by the order? if, according to tachyon, she was once a part of the rebellion, and then suddenly backed out on everyone, could it be because the order got her and is used her to stop the rebellion?

saralynn · Post by **saralynn** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:07 pm

I feel like the only one that doesn't think Alex is a GREAT actress. She's ok, she was a lot more natural when she was just Aunt Alex. I think she played Ice Queen ok until she had to talk to the camera.. I dunno. Something was just off and kind of dead to me. She's not terrible, though, I just think it could've been a lot more dramatic. And sweetie, if you're so rich, buy some oil absorbant sheets.

Aunt Alex is also a horrible liar. "I don't know what your talking about!" A lot of panic in her eyes, like 'o shit, now I have to explain myself.' Whenever DB and Jonas left she probably got herself together, maybe made a quick phonecall, and decided to give Jonas/Bree the message she did. I don't think she ever intended her cover to be blown, or even expose herself, but she made the best she could of the situation. Straight out denying it wouldn't have worked, Jonas has too much evidence.

On the run again.. hope they can find Bree, they can't let the Order know where they're going, but they have to let Bree know somehow. I picture Bree showing up at Alex's, and her convincing her that DB and Jonas just flat out ditched her.

luzdzus · Post by **luzdzus** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:10 pm

Incognito wrote: could alex also be brainwashed by the order? if, according to tachyon, she was once a part of the rebellion, and then suddenly backed out on everyone, could it be because the order got her and is used her to stop the rebellion?

That's the way I see it. She could have made up the scrapbook as evidence, then been reprogrammed and turned into a good little footsoldier for the Order. That would be why she gave up photography and why it was so easy for her to give it up - it wasn't required for her new function, so they didn't bother to include it in her new personality. I'm wondering if all her clothing designs are in black, though.

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:19 pm

voyboy wrote:Poor poor Jonas. This is so sad.

I have often played out in my mind what I would do if I found out my Mom or Dad were still alive. You think I would want it to be true but then, I think about how how many times I needed them and felt so helpless at times, and the grief I have gone through. I dont think I would ever forgive them.

That's so awful. I'm so sorry. I feel really bad for Jonas too.

Especially the way she said it. And how she implied they don't even remember him. Both of my parents are still alive, and I can't imagine how much he is hurting right now, but I just feel sooooooooo sad for him.

PixieSailor · Post by **PixieSailor** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:27 pm

Just finished reading the thread.

Alex's speech at the end was brilliance, and I think the question we should be asking ourselves now is "What will come after?"

R1kk1 · Post by **R1kk1** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:28 pm

I dont think Alex is evil... well.. I'm not totally sure, but what if actually she WAS with the Order, but she isn't anymore, she's just kind of warning them about it all because she knows whats going on.

Maybe thats where she was returning from when they picked her up from the airport.

Did anyone realise how quickly Jonas' hand healed up? Just thoguht I'd throw that one in there.

Also, Alex did let Daniel go. Maybe thats because she's not with the Order so as n interest. She turned cold because she realised that they wernet just a bunch of stupid kids, they really WERE running from the Order, so know its serious, and not some little game they have been playing (Especially her and Daniel).

Alex may have been the one to cover up Jonas' parents death. Which is why she kept the clippings. She covered up the deaths of many who were involved with the Order and then got out herself.

Again, this is all just possibilities, but I don't think that this COMPLETELY says that Alex is in the Order. She never once says she is. Yeah, she knows about the different parts of the Order and what they want, but so does Tachyon, and she isn't an Order-head (or is she?

<cue the freaky X-Files Music>)

So, I don't think that this video has completely confirmed Alex is part of the Order, which is what I think the video name implies. 'Alex is...' it's left unfiinished because they don't know what Alex is. Is she part of the order? Is she not? Is she acctually a demi-human elf that came from middle earth to tell Bree to click her red shoes twice and wish to gain a mega Uzi to run down the order?

Who knows?