Shaneener wrote:
When Jonas was captured, it looked like he was covering his own mouth with his hand. Why?
I already addressed this. The attacker came from his left. Jonas' right arm is trying to stop the attacker. If you look closely you can see the tips of the attacker's fingers under Jonas' hand, holding the cloth/tissue whatever.
What struck me was the fact that there's no slumped bodies in the passenger seat... and we don't know who was actually taken. For all we know, Daniel was chloroformed and left in the men's restroom (or by the dumpster) and Jonas was left by the dumpster. The person driving away might have only taken Bree.
I dunno'. I think the person who drives away is a woman, but... short of SheBeast/Tachyon, I'd love to see a teensy woman (based on the arm) muscle DB or Jonas into the trunk.
Oh,..and, while I think the wierd sound right before Danial gets nailed WAS Daniel wheezing. It could also be those automatic doors that most places have in Vegas. They're kind of suctiony (I know...that's not a word) and slide open...they DO make a wierd, loud noise when they open. When I first watched the vid, I thought that noise was just the camera person walking into the quicky-mart.
Morgan wrote:Ok, I decided to take note of all the readable text in the video, just in case they are clues.
The list I came up with:
Monte Carlo
George Wallace
Caesar's Palace
Paris
Bellagio?
MGM
Las Vegas Blvd
Jockey Club
(Monte Carlo again)
(unreadable street sign)
(Bree has an Icee!!!!!)
4916 S. Paradise
What do you guys think?
the bellagio is a very famous casino, and Ocean's Eleven, a movie that Bree watched on her movie marathon vid mentions, refers to this casino a lot, not sure if that's relevent.
did anyone consider that maybe they were captured by jonas' parents?
the order has somewhat left B, DB, and J alone. watchers follow them but have never actually tried anything. also, the videos from the order's point of view were given to us through OpAphid.
there's also the repetition of Bree saying Jonas' name over again. if it were his parents, that would be their focus. as well, this is a style of video we've never seen before. from what we know about alex, it's not likely to be something she'd pull. she was pretty forthright with DB and let him go.
this would also clear up that there were indeed two people involved (his mum and dad).
so far, those involved in the order that we've identified are all female - lucy, oppy, and alex. but the arm looks like a slender male arm. maybe jonas' dad?
all just speculation. but i was surprised no body considered it.
Ok after watching it yet again, I guess it does look like Jonas is trying to fight off the arm. Anyway, I have a theory about why we hear a woman's voice (Bree?) say "Jonas" before each of them is captured. I actually thought of this awhile back and posted it under the "How Dumb Am I?" video thread, ya know back when we all were SOOO sure that he Jonas was evil. So I'm just gonna quote myself instead of retyping it:
imogene2004 wrote:Maybe...Jonas was a bad guy and he was put there to guide Bree into doing what the order wants, but he started either falling for Bree or just forming really great relationships with B&D, so now he wants to help them instead. I mean, people can change, he may have been bad to begin with, that doesn't mean he is now. And of course if he told Bree and Daniel the truth, he could possibly lose their friendship and trust. But then again, he may be evil...we'll see!
Jonas was attacked from the left. He is being filmed from the right where his own arm is in the air attempting to pull the hand holding the chloroformed rag against his mouth off.
I am going to have to quote this post several times I suspect.
house wrote:What struck me was the fact that there's no slumped bodies in the passenger seat... and we don't know who was actually taken. For all we know, Daniel was chloroformed and left in the men's restroom (or by the dumpster) and Jonas was left by the dumpster. The person driving away might have only taken Bree.
Only if the video description is wrong. It says "subjects apprehended", as in plural.
I think they were all captured at the same time; in sync.
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Hey it could be Jonas' parents, am I the only one who thinks that Bree is Jonas' biological twin but the order took her away? They may not have always been in the resistance.
ShardinsKitten wrote:
lol no, because technically you never saw this video, it didn't happen lol. Unless you were part of the order, then you saw it.
That's what i don't like about private vids... I can't tell who is supposed to see it and who is not and blah blah blah
That was my concern also, I was afraid that it would only further confuse the situation.
Some people in the forum thread "who sees what" had a good suggestion on how to make it clearer that it is a private video, and who the video is addressed to. Namely, to begin the video with a blank screen with a message that identifies it as a password protected file then a simulated log on with someone entering a password. But as usual we are asked for our opinion, and then promptly ignored.
Gotta love being ignored. They always say we are so important blah blah. But they never follow threw with statements they say they will, we give ideas and get ignored. That's why I don't really bother anymore.
They stated who made the video and who it was for in the video description:
"Transmission OTS - 0135 - 09 Subjects location confirmed. Apprehended. Commencing Phase II. Faction: THE ORDER Status: PRIVATE VIDEO"
It was made by a member of the Order, probably to show that their mission was successful. Where's anyone getting confused?
If you read through this thread many people were confused until someone posted the statement by the Creators that this is the first of the "private videos", and people are still confused as to who sees it. Not to mention all the people who haven't been following the discussion on the topic.
That's what i don't like about private vids... I can't tell who is supposed to see it and who is not and blah blah blah
