Daniel, burn the shirt

Ravensnow27 · Post by **Ravensnow27** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:11 pm

giddeanx wrote:I think you all are crazy. The tracking device is in his shoes. Easier to hide and he wears them every day. Of course the device is powered by kinetic energy so everytime he takes a step it recharges its battery.

Well all of this is very interesting, but in his shirt? I guess they make those things that small but wouldnt it get washed?

I think shoes is a more plausible suggestion. It is weird that he was wearing the same shirt tho. Could that be his "trigger"

Isabella · Post by **Isabella** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:07 pm

You guys are so smart! Keep up the great detective work.

ladysolitary85 · Post by **ladysolitary85** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:46 am

Ravensnow27 wrote:
giddeanx wrote:I think you all are crazy. The tracking device is in his shoes. Easier to hide and he wears them every day. Of course the device is powered by kinetic energy so everytime he takes a step it recharges its battery.
Well all of this is very interesting, but in his shirt? I guess they make those things that small but wouldnt it get washed?

I think shoes is a more plausible suggestion. It is weird that he was wearing the same shirt tho. Could that be his "trigger"

I agree with the shoe theory. Oh but wait a min.... I just had an idea, maybe its litterally inside him! I know it sounds crazy but.... you know how now a days you can have this micro-chip id thingy inside your dog/cat? so that way in case their lost you can track them??? hmmm.... well what if thats the case with our Beast?

As far as the shirt, its possible it could be a trigger with the brainwashing, you know, the spin art stuff maybe brought him flashbacks of the process.

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:55 am

why is it so unrealistic to have it sewn into his shirt????
Have you ever seen a GPS tracking device?? They are small as hell. They could easily be sewn into a collar/sleeve of a shirt and not be noticed.

Hey if the CIA can do it, so can the order!

mellie3204 · Post by **mellie3204** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:28 am

Killthesmiley wrote:why is it so unrealistic to have it sewn into his shirt????
Have you ever seen a GPS tracking device?? They are small as hell. They could easily be sewn into a collar/sleeve of a shirt and not be noticed.

Hey if the CIA can do it, so can the order!

True!

But if they're gonna bother, I think I'm with ladysolitary85; these days it's nothing more than an injection to implant one into someone, and Daniels certainly been stuck with the Order long enough on his last 'visit' to have that done...

But then, why not be safe rather than sorry? Maybe they implanted him and stuck them everywhere they can, in their stuff, on their car, etc etc?

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:42 am

mellie3204 wrote:
Killthesmiley wrote:why is it so unrealistic to have it sewn into his shirt????
Have you ever seen a GPS tracking device?? They are small as hell. They could easily be sewn into a collar/sleeve of a shirt and not be noticed.

Hey if the CIA can do it, so can the order!
True!

But if they're gonna bother, I think I'm with ladysolitary85; these days it's nothing more than an injection to implant one into someone, and Daniels certainly been stuck with the Order long enough on his last 'visit' to have that done...

But then, why not be safe rather than sorry? Maybe they implanted him and stuck them everywhere they can, in their stuff, on their car, etc etc?

Thats definately true. Injecting a tracking device would be easy, and probably just as readily available to them. Microsoft is injecting willing employees with ID chips now. Dog's get them implanted in...so yea. It's probably just as likely.

silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:53 am

There are actually parents who get tracking devices put into their children when they are at a high risk of being abducted. It's basically the equivalent of a shot with a big needle.

Daniel is wearing a simple white men's undershirt. They get washed and bleached and turned into rags all the time. I think the Order would be smarter than to put a tracking device into a piece of clothing that could be easily damaged or left behind if they had to flee suddenly.

If there are any tracking devices anywhere, they are much more likely to be in someone's body (they could have "tagged" Bree years ago) or in those stupid puppets.

Did anyone notice that the Order made their move right after Bree said (at Tachy's camp) that she thought she was old enough to stop playing with P. Monkey? Maybe they were afraid that she would ditch him, and that they would be no longer able to track her whereabouts.

If this is true, Tachy's camp has been located by the Order.

Lunafox · Post by **Lunafox** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:04 am

silvermoon wrote:There are actually parents who get tracking devices put into their children when they are at a high risk of being abducted. It's basically the equivalent of a shot with a big needle.:

heck yes. Lo- Jack the kiddies!

Languorous Lass · Post by **Languorous Lass** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:07 pm

Heh. When I saw this thread title, I thought it was a fashion comment on one of Daniel's ugly shirts from "For the Ladies."

Ravensnow27 · Post by **Ravensnow27** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:32 pm

ladysolitary85 wrote:
Ravensnow27 wrote:
giddeanx wrote:I think you all are crazy. The tracking device is in his shoes. Easier to hide and he wears them every day. Of course the device is powered by kinetic energy so everytime he takes a step it recharges its battery.
Well all of this is very interesting, but in his shirt? I guess they make those things that small but wouldnt it get washed?

I think shoes is a more plausible suggestion. It is weird that he was wearing the same shirt tho. Could that be his "trigger"

I agree with the shoe theory. Oh but wait a min.... I just had an idea, maybe its litterally inside him! I know it sounds crazy but.... you know how now a days you can have this micro-chip id thingy inside your dog/cat? so that way in case their lost you can track them??? hmmm.... well what if thats the case with our Beast?

As far as the shirt, its possible it could be a trigger with the brainwashing, you know, the spin art stuff maybe brought him flashbacks of the process.

Yeah I could see it being implanted inside of him, in that case then Jonas and bree could've been implanted long ago, maybe even as babies, possibly under the scar, doesn't even have to be a tracking device either could be just info. accessed by a scanner. But that wouldn't be as cool.

heather · Post by **heather** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:32 pm

silvermoon wrote: If there are any tracking devices anywhere, they are much more likely to be in someone's body (they could have "tagged" Bree years ago) or in those stupid puppets.

I had never thought of them actually tagging Bree. The stuffed animals have been thought to be tagged in the past. But now that you mention actually tagging her at younger age.. or maybe even one of the injections her father gave her, things seem to make sense.

ladysolitary85 · Post by **ladysolitary85** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:37 pm

mellie3204 wrote:
Killthesmiley wrote:why is it so unrealistic to have it sewn into his shirt????
Have you ever seen a GPS tracking device?? They are small as hell. They could easily be sewn into a collar/sleeve of a shirt and not be noticed.

Hey if the CIA can do it, so can the order!
True!

But if they're gonna bother, I think I'm with ladysolitary85; these days it's nothing more than an injection to implant one into someone, and Daniels certainly been stuck with the Order long enough on his last 'visit' to have that done...

But then, why not be safe rather than sorry? Maybe they implanted him and stuck them everywhere they can, in their stuff, on their car, etc etc?

brownie points! yay me!... hey if thats the case than.... ohhh Jonas....?

this wont hurt at all. I promise

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:50 pm

Well, my point at the beginning of this thread was that Daniel needs to incinerate any shirt he has of this kind. One of them obviously has some seriously bad mojo attached to it.

Amara · Post by **Amara** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:50 pm

I don't believe in the injection theory at all. For the dogs and cats injection, it's an ID not a GPS tracking device, and if the Order is so far advanced that they have it inside of Bree or Daniel, they could have gotten them in a matter of hours. However I do think they have something on them that gives off a signal, only you have to be within like 30 miles of them to pick it up, that would make more sense.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:35 pm

Amara wrote:I don't believe in the injection theory at all. For the dogs and cats injection, it's an ID not a GPS tracking device, and if the Order is so far advanced that they have it inside of Bree or Daniel, they could have gotten them in a matter of hours.

Well they've known where they've been this entire time, so they could have taken them at any point before now. I think the theory that they're almost out of time now and have to get results is what prompted this kidnapping. That, or like Juli suggested, the idea that they were going to wait for Bree to choose to come to them was just an attempt to mislead them.