0163- "Communication Terminated" [3/31/07]

gigglingmonk · Post by **gigglingmonk** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:02 pm

How did they get shoes? I mean..they were all barefoot..but now they're running in a desert? With no shoes?

SharpI · Post by **SharpI** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:11 pm

janesalteredstates wrote:I feel certain after re-watching this a few times that there are at least two people ("watchers") with cameras tracking down Bree.

I think you're right. Just before the Watcher rushes her (and gets shot) we have a camera view of her from a separate angle and much closer. Bree backs up this idea: when the Watcher rushes her, she is facing the other way and very focused, presumably because she's seen the other Watcher.

If that's true, it's the other Watcher's feet we see at the end. He comes forward once he's reasonably sure HE won't get shot.

The shot itself is very strange, because it was done when the Watcher was RIGHT NEXT to Bree. You gotta be pretty sure of yourself for that, or not care overmuch about Bree. We KNOW the Ceremony-lovers in the Order would never risk that... But Tachyon/Brother would? It's a little creepy.

Jo_16_2 · Post by **Jo_16_2** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:14 pm

it's sand, pretend that it's a beach

lonelygirl · Post by **lonelygirl** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:25 pm

ok, the way i see it. someone that looks like daniel, maybe brother? breaks in and tries to break the camera. that may be wrong because it looks like daniel. they somehow get bree out or bree escapes and she runs. someone from the order with the camera goes after her but when they're about to reach her, gets knocked down. hence you see the camera going sideways and blinking. i don't know if that makes sense.

lostgamer · Post by **lostgamer** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:32 pm

i have not got a chance to read evry thing yet but im half why thro

i think
the shoe is an order guy
they wher following bree too why would only one person go after her and after the first one got takin out how ever and bree ran away the second guy just chout up with the first guy so he was cheking to see if he was alive.

also the car could have been some onein the order couse if i was the guy who was shot i'd not of gone to get bree when a car was neer with the door opne i'd have investagated it and held there to see if they came back fore it

robtomorrow · Post by **robtomorrow** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:33 pm

HisGirl wrote:
FyodorReader wrote: twas thinking it was another order member who found the body and camera... how else could the order upload the private message vid?
agree!

that makes it all tie together quite nicely

It could of been a remote viewing camera, like they have in unmanned aircraft, satellites, robots, etc.

I am not usually one to help fill holes in the story, but there is a plausible explanation of how this footage got uploaded.

mellie3204 · Post by **mellie3204** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:38 pm

Ooo, exciting!

Yep I'm gonna repeat what some have said, but just adding my support.

I think the guy at the end is a watcher - I've been privately thinking of the as "the black suits", and this guy at the end fits the bill. Plus if it were say Tachy or Bro, they would surely come out in desert cammo gear or something, only the orderites would be arrogant enough (or in too much of a hurry) to go out there dressed like that.

Also re: the glassess, finally I called something!
(Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:03 pm)

mellie3204 wrote:It did look like the shot were taken through an 'eye' lense, didn't it? Maybe cameras attached/embedded in their watchers subglassess? How cool if they all video everything they see using these?!?! (Random speculation there, sorry )

And I'm sticking with that theory... it just seems like too much of a creative bother to go through to put some or the Order vid through this lens-type imaging without symbolising something as obvious as 'the camera is in their glasses' - if I had to portay that I'd do it in a very similar way.

Lastly, after the watcher that was chasing Bree was 'taken out' (not sure if he was knocked down or shot here), I think there is actually a bit of a delay - there is a slightly longer fade, and then the camera starts blinking in and out... so maybe by the time this other watcher found his fallen comrade, the others were long gone?

Oh I hope so!

voyboy · Post by **voyboy** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:42 pm

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:Hey, what do you guys see here?

Enlarged and sharpened:

bathmatt - wadded up.

romy · Post by **romy** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:42 pm

Here are some thoughts

The Faction of the Order is not representative of the Order. It's a Faction. The Watcher guns down the Faction kidnapper because they are mis-representing the Order's ideals. ie Forcing Bree into the Ceremony. We all know this is anti-order thinking.

The trio escapes, but probably not together. Bree is the important one to track, so that's who the kidnapper focuses on "Recovering."

The editing is primarily for entertainment purposes. For us - The audience

Side Note - The Psychological Torture looks to be shot in a hotel room with your run-of-the-mill hotel room chair in the BG of the interrogation shots.

My thought is that all of this "Psychological Torture" happened in a couple of hotel rooms.

And the jumbled message attached to this vid? Here's my translation. Subjects escaped. Attempting Recovery. Target Acquired. Shot by watcher(s). Faction:....

Unfortunately, I don't think it is any kind of code.

Laterz

lonelygirl · Post by **lonelygirl** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:43 pm

Onewen wrote:Here is the screencap of what looks like a watcher at the end...for anyone who is interested in seeing it. Definately looks like one to me...but then whose side are they on??

that would make sense with the shoes and there would be no need to argue about why brother is killing with style.

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:45 pm

K wheh here is my usual list of thoughts. After I read all of that stuff.

1. The camera is head mounted this is the final proof. Weither it is in the sunglasses or just mounted like a nightvision scope. He needed both hands in the first video to take Jonas one to hold him the other to put the cloth on his mouth.

2. Im pretty sure that a gun shot happened but something is odd about it. The bullet should have hit first and then we hear the report of the gun. Bullets travel at supersonic speeds to hear a report and then be hit is rediculous.

Speed of sound = 1128.6 fps
Average Bullet Speed (at 100 yds) = 2435.33 fps.
Average Bullet Speed (at 500 yds) = 1375 fps

I am assuming a rifle. To attempt a pot shot at any sort of range with a pistol would be dangerous due to how close Bree was.

3. Transmission OTS - 0135 - 09. Subjects escaped. Attempting recovery. Target acquire@#dlks..dskjl sho$-#.atch..r$#@!......d....s.............. Faction: THE ORDER Status: PRIVATE VIDEO

I don't see much of a code but if you take a close look at it and throw out the nonsence you do get.
sho_ __atch_r shot watcher mayhap. Maybe in dlks..dskjl is a name. Who knows.

Peace out

LONGTIMELURKER · Post by **LONGTIMELURKER** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:50 pm

longlostposter wrote:
Lurker wrote:
SapereAudeo wrote:
The videos are for internal information within the Order. The raw footage is sent to some version of a processing place where the videos we see are cut and put to music to make understanding easier for the rest of the Order.
Why would that stuff make it easier to understand? Isn't all that's important here is that the golden child escaped, her pursuer was shot and she's apparently still free (and the footage wouldn't need music to convey that)? Why show random shots of scenery and then throw in unnecessary music? This is a time critical situation, no? They'd need to get on the ball in tracking her down, not edit a video for dramatic effect.
I agree with Lurker on this. Why would the Order need megashots of the desert?

Obviously, the editing is meant to make the vid entertaining for us, but as far as what would happen in RL, this isn't it.

Wouldn't horror movies and dramas be a bit boring w/ out mood music and set-up scenery ?(Think Psycho w/ out the music!) Think of this as a drama....

romy · Post by **romy** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:51 pm

PS - The movements of the camera are not head/eye - like movements. SO I am not in the boat of eye-cams, glasses-camera or the like.

Sorry

kwicherbichen · Post by **kwicherbichen** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:51 pm

DUDE I THINK THEY ARE ROBOTS!!

ANDROID HUMANIODS! O_o

romy · Post by **romy** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:53 pm

giddeanx wrote:K wheh here is my usual list of thoughts. After I read all of that stuff.

2. Im pretty sure that a gun shot happened but something is odd about it. The bullet should have hit first and then we hear the report of the gun. Bullets travel at supersonic speeds to hear a report and then be hit is rediculous.

Speed of sound = 1128.6 fps
Average Bullet Speed (at 100 yds) = 2435.33 fps.
Average Bullet Speed (at 500 yds) = 1375 fps

Chalk this up to the over-sight of The Creators.