Frank's Private Thoughts Blog 10/9/06

DontHaveAClue · Post by **DontHaveAClue** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:38 am

DontHaveAClue wrote: We miss a key here to decrypt this thing. I guess that could be in "It might as well hurt"

On the other hand, "It might as well hurt" are lyrics from Use Once and Destroy by Hole, which first verse is: "Its the emptiness that follows you there"... so there might be nothing on this blog!

flamencopirate · Post by **flamencopirate** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:24 pm

DontHaveAClue wrote:
DontHaveAClue wrote: We miss a key here to decrypt this thing. I guess that could be in "It might as well hurt"
On the other hand, "It might as well hurt" are lyrics from Use Once and Destroy by Hole, which first verse is: "Its the emptiness that follows you there"... so there might be nothing on this blog!

Use once and destroy as in, use a letter once, destroy duplicates (to be totally literal in the title's meaning....?

ABBBCCDDDDDEFFFGGGGGHJKKMMNNNOPQQQSTTUUVWXXYZZZ

ABCDEFGHJKMNOPQSTUVWXYZ.... anything that helps solve? it's still probably coded or something... but I don't really know, just an idea

DontHaveAClue · Post by **DontHaveAClue** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:36 pm

flamencopirate wrote: Use once and destroy as in, use a letter once, destroy duplicates (to be totally literal in the title's meaning....?

Yes, I thought about that too, but...

flamencopirate wrote: ABCDEFGHJKMNOPQSTUVWXYZ....

this is what we get and it doesn't help much.

DontHaveAClue · Post by **DontHaveAClue** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:38 pm

I've tried different cyphers. These things can get awfully complex. I don't know to which level of complexity CiW would go into this. So far I got nothing!

For what it's worth, here is the numerical value of each letter:

6-7-14-17-2-15-26-21-13-26-2-24-16-8-20-2-3-22-4-7-6-11-17-5-7-11-3-17-21-20-23-10-4-1-19-4-13-6-14-4-14-7-26-7-4-24-25

in

FGNQBOZUMZBXPHTBCVDGFKQEGKCQUTWJDASDMFNDNGZGDXY

(Frank might have been banging his head on the keyword, which is exactly what I'm doing right now

)

jetblack · Post by **jetblack** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:36 pm

This is probably a Caesar cipher with a keyword.

Ex: Keyword HOLE gives H=A, O=B, L=C, E=D, A=E, B=F, C=G, D=H, F=I, G=J etc.

We just need to try out different keywords until we get it right!

Or it could be a Vigenère cipher which is a bit trickier. But as long as we guess the right keyword and use the tabula recta this shouldn't be too hard.

LesterG · Post by **LesterG** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:45 pm

jetblack wrote:This is probably a Caesar cipher with a keyword.

Ex: Keyword HOLE gives H=A, O=B, L=C, E=D, A=E, B=F, C=G, D=H, F=I, G=J etc.

We just need to try out different keywords until we get it right!

Or it could be a Vigenère cipher which is a bit trickier. But as long as we guess the right keyword and use the tabula recta this shouldn't be too hard.

I think your on to something, maybe instead of hole, should try the subject of his post as the keywords?

Ie: It might as well hurt

jetblack · Post by **jetblack** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:07 pm

LesterG wrote:
jetblack wrote:This is probably a Caesar cipher with a keyword.

Ex: Keyword HOLE gives H=A, O=B, L=C, E=D, A=E, B=F, C=G, D=H, F=I, G=J etc.

We just need to try out different keywords until we get it right!

Or it could be a Vigenère cipher which is a bit trickier. But as long as we guess the right keyword and use the tabula recta this shouldn't be too hard.
I think your on to something, maybe instead of hole, should try the subject of his post as the keywords?

Ie: It might as well hurt

Yeah, but after haven given it some thought I don't think it's that easy.

Problem is that we have combinations like FG, BC and XY. Unless they correspond to DE, HI, NO, OP, ST, TU, UV, AB (ie letter combinations that occure in the English language this cannot be a Caesar cipher.

DontHaveAClue wrote:FGNQBOZUMZBXPHTBCVDGFKQEGKCQUTWJDASDMFNDNGZGDXY

48 characters, which in alphabetical order give:

ABBBCCDDDDDEFFFGGGGGHJKKMMNNNOPQQQSTTUUVWXXYZZZ

so we have 23 letters (I, L and R are missing), with the frequencies:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
1 3 2 5 1 3 5 1 0 1 2 0 2 3 1 1 3 0 1 2 2 1 1 2 1 3

So?

We miss a key here to decrypt this thing. I guess that could be in "It might as well hurt"

This is HIGHLY interesting.

I'm thinking that the missing letters correspond to letters that are the least used in English, like Q, K, J or whichever they are.

If we trust the frequency analysis, we might suspect that D and G correspond to A and E (or E and A).

EDIT: D and G are probably E and T (or vice versa) since T is more common than A and the letters occure next to eachother in Frank's message.

The most common letters in the English language are ETAOIN SHRDLU

chixor1 · Post by **chixor1** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:30 pm

It would appear that the post in his private thoughts was him passing away at the computer.

jetblack · Post by **jetblack** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:50 pm

I think I'm on to something.

It appears part of the message codes into "estate" which seems to be a term used in Second Life.

Danielle · Post by **Danielle** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:59 pm

Good a tie with second life, maybe Frank knows who she has taken...

jetblack · Post by **jetblack** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:56 pm

Don't know if this is correct or if I've jumbled a few letters, but this is what I have so far:

itsorOaUhardPHTrygetinoutnyoUTWJeASehisestatedY

Faylestar · Post by **Faylestar** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:46 pm

So, I don't know if anyone posted this or not yet, and I am too lazy to go back and read.

Cassie's new video has a description of " It's the emptiness that follows you down", so it looks like the Hole song was a damn good find.

Cassie's new video is also tagged "Frank told lies". Big surprise.

kalli182 · Post by **kalli182** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:47 pm

jetblack wrote:Don't know if this is correct or if I've jumbled a few letters, but this is what I have so far:

itsorOaUhardPHTrygetinoutnyoUTWJeASehisestatedY

its looking promising, good work:D

SivartAlappes · Post by **SivartAlappes** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:09 am

chixor1 wrote:It would appear that the post in his private thoughts was him passing away at the computer.

but then, who clicked the "post" button?

tiltingwindward · Post by **tiltingwindward** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:22 am

Frankly, I'm not sure how the post on Frank's Private Thoughts blog could in any way be caused by his death/death throes/etc. First of all, he would have had to type out the perfectly coherent title to the post, BEFORE he died suddenly enough to cause the randomness in the message. Second, there is almost no way that his supposed wife would be typing on a computer that her husband died on--I'm assuming here that Frank's death probably involved at least minimal transmission of bodily fluids. And finally, if Frank just keeled over and slammed his head down on the keyboard, the resulting message would likely be gibberish featuring large quantities of the same letter/s. Think about it: if you press your head to your keyboard, does it randomly select letters from all over the keyboard and enter them, or does the computer get stuck on the area around the H or D or something and enter those letters a million times?

Side note: If Frank's wife left him because he was hearing voices, then how likely is that same woman to come back and leave a nice thank you note when she discovers that her husband has been communicating with a lot of other crazy people who think they hear voices too? The last thing I would expect that woman to do is try to maintain some kind of contact with the people who were (in her opinion) exacerbating Frank's illness.