[Video] TWJaniak: Truth in Friendship (10/13/06)

Kenneth Nishimoto · Post by **Kenneth Nishimoto** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:41 pm

My favorite part is the snow.

Incredible performance. Didn't see this collaboration coming from a mile away.

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:58 pm

That was great!

I have thought that HSA and Mr. T were one and the same.

Still not sure.....

toadlguy · Post by **toadlguy** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:03 pm

Harumph - I dont see this video - It's not on YTube - where might I find it

EDIT: Nevermind - didn't think to look under Ms Kellys Videos - I am a TWJaniak fan on his own account

I will post it here for those as slow as myself:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OdgSKlKchNQ

Maybe a link on the hsaonline home page? anybody?

JoannaChildsface · Post by **JoannaChildsface** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:11 pm

Im surprised she let him speak so openly about Bree and Daniel. All of Ms. Kelly's vids are much more vague and cryptic.
I wonder what it's like to have a snowstorm in October...
*wistful sigh*
->J

toadlguy · Post by **toadlguy** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:33 pm

Trust is a good and noble thing particularly in friendships - it may be the most important thing in friendships - sometimes more important than truth. But there are also times within a friendship that you might need to intercede. Most intercessions come from friendship as well as love. There are times, and if a good friend of mine was involved in a destructive cult is one of them (although I am not saying that is what is going on here - Daniel reallly has no evidence of that), where truth may need to trump trust and love trumps all.

EDIT: Great Video TWJaniak - Rain may turn to snow - but you need a hat or you'll freeze your ears off.

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:55 pm

As Dr. Laura says in matters of life and death you may have to betray your friend.

taiya · Post by **taiya** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:41 am

Hmm, maybe Ms. Kelly is Dr. Laura...

Cool video though TWJaniak. I liked the snow part too. How did you make that happen especially for your video and on Friday the 13th!

rachelalexis · Post by **rachelalexis** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:28 am

Wow. All I could think about with that video was just "how the heck did I move the one year my old home would get buried under snow on Friday the 13th!"
I guess I have to wait for my snow...

Nora Volkova · Post by **Nora Volkova** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:37 am

It depends on what you feel is the correct form of the golden rule.

The original version, as stated in the Mahabharata, Confucius, Rabbi Hillel and others, runs along the lines of avoiding doing to others what you don't want them doing to you.

The Christian religion came along and spun this differently, in Jesus' famous version "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

The newer version is much more aggressive and can be interpreted as encouraging interventions. Intervention is always a dicey prospect -- in many cases, it is *obviously* necessary, as when an addicted parent is unable to care for their children. In some other cases, it is not quite so obviously necessary, and may in fact be unwarranted and intrusive.

Should a friend intrude based on vague uneasiness? What is a good and rational standard for intervention?

taiya · Post by **taiya** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:51 am

I think the key word here may be "Destructive". Vague uneasiness doesn't seem to be enough. If someone is involved with something that is clearly destructive to them or if they are hurting others, then I think an intervention is called for.

I have a friend who is involved with a group that I don't think highly of and am annoyed at how actively they recruit, but I can see that she is actually learning and growing from the experience. I don't see a need to intervene, I just hope she grows out of it quickly and stops trying to get me to join.

In Bree and Daniel's case, it's unclear as to how destructive her religion is. And I think Daniel is unclear about it as well. However she didn't look well in that last video.