Translation: they somehow make life.

gjtko2007 · Post by **gjtko2007** » Wed May 30, 2007 10:57 pm

I'm not arguing the validity of your point, SARAHPHOBIA88. Even if they made a new Crowley/Antichrist, it still needs to be a living, breathing person.

SARAHPHOBIA88 · Post by **SARAHPHOBIA88** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:05 pm

gjtko2007 wrote:I'm not arguing the validity of your point, SARAHPHOBIA88. Even if they made a new Crowley/Antichrist, it still needs to be a living, breathing person.

I understand! Just, this stuff is kinda messy,if you ask me!

hella · Post by **hella** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:15 pm

if they are trying to study the origin of life it seems like they are more trying to disprove a religion...abiogenesis!

hella · Post by **hella** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:51 pm

"The RNA world hypothesis states that early life forms lacked protein enzymes and depended instead on enzymes composed of RNA (1). Much of the appeal of this hypothesis comes from the realization that ribozymes would have been far easier to duplicate than proteinaceous enzymes (2--5). Whereas coded protein replication requires numerous macromolecular components [including mRNA, transfer RNAs (tRNAs), aminoacyl-tRNA synthetases, and the ribosome], replication of a ribozyme requires only a single macromolecular activity: an RNA-dependent RNA polymerase that synthesizes first a complement, and then a copy of the ribozyme. If this RNA polymerase were itself a ribozyme, then a simple ensemble of molecules might be capable of self-replication and eventually, in the course of evolution, give rise to the protein-nucleic acid world of contemporary biology."

MizzMandi · Post by **MizzMandi** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:02 am

This is my theory on that subject (be it as crazy as possible!)

What if Bree was a clone of someone or something, or I don't know,
or she was a "test tube" baby thing, grown!? That would explain
why her parents aren't her parents right!?

Crazy thought I know

raigne · Post by **raigne** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:08 am

I still like the theory someone else had of the order trying to unlock the key to immortality.

SARAHPHOBIA88 · Post by **SARAHPHOBIA88** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:10 am

MizzMandi wrote:This is my theory on that subject (be it as crazy as possible!)

What if Bree was a clone of someone or something, or I don't know,
or she was a "test tube" baby thing, grown!? That would explain
why her parents aren't her parents right!?

Crazy thought I know

I have brought that up recently too! Bree could be a clone of someone long ago...
Which means she is not the first, and no "new girl" could ever have taken her place.

MizzMandi · Post by **MizzMandi** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:11 am

SARAHPHOBIA88 wrote:
MizzMandi wrote:This is my theory on that subject (be it as crazy as possible!)

What if Bree was a clone of someone or something, or I don't know,
or she was a "test tube" baby thing, grown!? That would explain
why her parents aren't her parents right!?

Crazy thought I know
I have brought that up recently too! Bree could be a clone of someone long ago...
Which means she is not the first, and no "new girl" could ever have taken her place.

Maybe they just keep making little Brees after little Brees as sacrifices or something!?

SARAHPHOBIA88 · Post by **SARAHPHOBIA88** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:16 am

MizzMandi wrote:
SARAHPHOBIA88 wrote:
MizzMandi wrote:This is my theory on that subject (be it as crazy as possible!)

What if Bree was a clone of someone or something, or I don't know,
or she was a "test tube" baby thing, grown!? That would explain
why her parents aren't her parents right!?

Crazy thought I know
I have brought that up recently too! Bree could be a clone of someone long ago...
Which means she is not the first, and no "new girl" could ever have taken her place.
Maybe they just keep making little Brees after little Brees as sacrifices or something!?

Which could mean those kids at the camp in the "off season" could mean something!

xwestsidex · Post by **xwestsidex** » Thu May 31, 2007 2:52 am

heres what I think...

I think they are doing experiments to try and create an asexual human being. For example, in order to have a baby, you dont need to have sex. AKA "women wont need men"

And also, havent you noticed that all the main order members so far (Brees mom, Lucy, Alex, Oppy) have all been FEMALE. And Im thinking that any baby thats going to be created by ribozymes would be female as well..

In other words, I think the order is just some dirty feminist organization thats trying to make the male race extinct on the earth....

(and if anyones wondering. I think the watchers are just in it for the money lol)

PhiaMonster · Post by **PhiaMonster** » Thu May 31, 2007 3:20 am

xwestsidex wrote: In other words, I think the order is just some dirty feminist organization thats trying to make the male race extinct on the earth....

If this is true then those damn orderites have gone too far!! No men?!?

Nieriel.Manwathiel · Post by **Nieriel.Manwathiel** » Thu May 31, 2007 3:36 am

xwestsidex wrote:heres what I think...

I think they are doing experiments to try and create an asexual human being. For example, in order to have a baby, you dont need to have sex. AKA "women wont need men"

And also, havent you noticed that all the main order members so far (Brees mom, Lucy, Alex, Oppy) have all been FEMALE. And Im thinking that any baby thats going to be created by ribozymes would be female as well..

In other words, I think the order is just some dirty feminist organization thats trying to make the male race extinct on the earth....

(and if anyones wondering. I think the watchers are just in it for the money lol)

didn't they do a movie like that, called "last man on earth" or sumthin?

Annika · Post by **Annika** » Thu May 31, 2007 9:39 am

How they go from "they catalyze their own synthesis" to "they somehow make life" is beyond me.

sack36 · Post by **sack36** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:13 am

I have a few objections to this theory.
1. A clone from bree would be physically bree. You can't generate a different set of DNA if you only have one to work with. So no Crowley.
2. In this contemporary world, "virgin" birth is no big deal. Artificial insemination needent break the hymen , if that's your criteria or require sex if that is. So a virgin birth at this point is moot.
3. Even if somehow you could get a Crowley with cloning, the clone would be a baby. He wouldn't have any of the memories or life experiences that made up the original Crowley. He would be his own person.

LittleChickie · Post by **LittleChickie** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:29 am

sack36 wrote: 3. Even if somehow you could get a Crowley with cloning, the clone would be a baby. He wouldn't have any of the memories or life experiences that made up the original Crowley. He would be his own person.

But raise him to think that he is the same Crowley reincarnated and he'll be the exact same person. Make him read everything about "himself" and jam all of "his" past thoughts into his head. By nature he'd be a different person, but by nurture he'd become the same as the Crowley before.

Lonelygirl15

Translation: they somehow make life.

"They somehow make life"