Jonas,
I know that you really care for Bree and no doubt, you've been wanting to be close to her like this for a while... but Bree's not in a good frame of mind right now.
I know you don't want to hear this, but please listen: Bree, the real, true Bree, may not want this at all.
First of all, she has been through some very traumatic stuff and it's possible that she's just trying to feel safe, without any real affection for you. Sometimes when people go through things, they just try to grab onto anything that they see as stable because they need that reassurance. I don't want to see you hurt.
Second, I find it odd that Bree responds so well to you while she still shuns Daniel. I'm not saying that you aren't loveable, I'm just saying that her cold behavior towards Daniel makes me think that she's not all there. Perhaps Bree has true feelings for you, but the last time that Daniel tried to kiss her, she freaked at the very act because she was so innocent and naive... now she's kissing you with ease, although her experiences in that department haven't changed. That doesn't follow, either. I hate to say it, but maybe the Order/HoO wants her to try to seduce you so that you will lower your guard and she can escape/give away your position. You can't really trust her, not yet, because she hasn't shown any signs that she is the true, real Bree yet.
Third, this is the perfect way to pull you and Daniel apart: Daniel sees you and Bree being "friendly", he pulls up stakes, or at the very least, infighting begins and you guys are at each others throats, either of which the Order would love.
Jonas, please wait until Bree is back to her old self. If you guys can get her back to herself, you can protect all of you from the bad guys, but right now, you're making potentially dangerous moves. If you really love Bree, and she really loves you, then waiting will only make things sweeter. If, for whatever reason, something is wrong, you and your group will only suffer horribly in the end.
B
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JenniPowell
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I would also keep your guard up about Sarah...what is her motivation for spying on you and then publicly posting it? This is a very tricky situation and for the sake of everyone, you need to keep your wits about you!
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sanguine105
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Jonas...why, Jonas, why?! I love the idea of you and Bree together, but she's not the real Bree yet (read all the above comments!). Sarah is up to no good too...whether her intentions are because she's involved in the HoO or in order to get Daniel to herself...it doesn't matter - you let your emotions get the upper-hand here.
It's obvious that you care about Bree, but does she really care about you? Why is Sarah doing this to you? Does she want to separate you and Daniel? Does Bree want you and Daniel to fight as well? These girls are tricky. Be careful!
It's obvious that you care about Bree, but does she really care about you? Why is Sarah doing this to you? Does she want to separate you and Daniel? Does Bree want you and Daniel to fight as well? These girls are tricky. Be careful!
I honestly can't tell if Sarah had bad intentions (like starting a fight, trying to swaty Daniel even further in her favor) or if she's just not thinking (she's bored or she wants to create drama). Either way, I don't think that Daniel is going to react well to this at all.
It's far more important to keep your wits about you at the moment, Jonas.
It's far more important to keep your wits about you at the moment, Jonas.
Cats were once treated as Gods in Egypt... and let me tell you, they haven't forgotten that fact. Meow!
I agree. It seems as though Sarah is trying to do what she can to seperate you and Daniel which could end up in some very big trouble, particularly when Bree needs you two to be as much of a team as possible in helping her.JenniPowell wrote:I would also keep your guard up about Sarah...what is her motivation for spying on you and then publicly posting it? This is a very tricky situation and for the sake of everyone, you need to keep your wits about you!
It also seems unlikely, as much as anyone might like to deny it, that Brees intentions are pure. From the way she's behaving its very likely that she is trying to entice you, quite possibly because you have ties to the Order.
Remember, Eve betrayed Adam.
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pugmypet13
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kiss..
not good for the friendship factor
between you beast bree and sarah!
after this your going to be the one looking like your not doing the right thing..
and i think thats the last thing you would want
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to hear that your harming her more then helping her
between you beast bree and sarah!
after this your going to be the one looking like your not doing the right thing..
and i think thats the last thing you would want
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to hear that your harming her more then helping her
I can't speak for anyone else, but honestly, Jonas, I get the distinct feeling that someone is playing you in all of this. I'm not saying that Bree doesn't have or couldn't have feelings for you that are like those that you have for her, but something doesn't feel right at all about the way that Bree is clinging to you while ignoring Daniel. Now, I know that Bree has made it clear that she doesn't see Daniel as more than a friend, but shouldn't she be just as delighted to see him again as she's delighted to see you?
I don't know if it's Sarah or Bree (due to the way that the HoO messed with her mind, etc) who's playing you, but something just doesn't feel right to me.
Regardless, I think that it would be a good idea for you to cool off your interactions with Bree for the time being. The first two priorities are to get Bree back into her right frame of mind, and then to show her the contents of the box that her father left for her. If you lose sight of these two things, only trouble can follow.
If you and Bree end up hooking up when all is said and done, that's cool with me and a lot of people out here, but if you continue on this current road and it causes something major to happen, something that you and the others will regret, then it can only hurt Bree in the end.
B
I don't know if it's Sarah or Bree (due to the way that the HoO messed with her mind, etc) who's playing you, but something just doesn't feel right to me.
Regardless, I think that it would be a good idea for you to cool off your interactions with Bree for the time being. The first two priorities are to get Bree back into her right frame of mind, and then to show her the contents of the box that her father left for her. If you lose sight of these two things, only trouble can follow.
If you and Bree end up hooking up when all is said and done, that's cool with me and a lot of people out here, but if you continue on this current road and it causes something major to happen, something that you and the others will regret, then it can only hurt Bree in the end.
B
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Silence141
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jonas if i was daniel id kick the loving sh*t out of you
theres no excuse for that
you know shes not right. idc what she said or if she said she wanted it.
not cool man i thought u had more strength than that.
daniel is going to be PISSED and he should be.. he wasnt helping but your just being destructive.
theres no excuse for that
you know shes not right. idc what she said or if she said she wanted it.
not cool man i thought u had more strength than that.
daniel is going to be PISSED and he should be.. he wasnt helping but your just being destructive.
DONT.BLINK.
The last thing that I would ever accuse Jonas of is intentionally trying to hurt Bree, or Daniel. I don't think that's his motivation here at all.
I agree that Jonas should have thought twice before getting involved with Bree in this manner, but by the same token, Daniel ignoring Bree for the company of Sarah, a girl who has been more responsive to Daniel than Bree has in a more than platonic way, isn't exactly cool either. It's the pot calling the kettle black, to be honest. I'm not saying that Daniel has abandonned Bree, neither of the boys have, but hanging out with Sarah because she might give him some (or may have already) is just as inexcusable. So, in reality, Daniel doesn't have a leg to stand on when the two situations are compared.
Both of the boys need to focus on the task at hand and give their hormones a break.
I agree that Jonas should have thought twice before getting involved with Bree in this manner, but by the same token, Daniel ignoring Bree for the company of Sarah, a girl who has been more responsive to Daniel than Bree has in a more than platonic way, isn't exactly cool either. It's the pot calling the kettle black, to be honest. I'm not saying that Daniel has abandonned Bree, neither of the boys have, but hanging out with Sarah because she might give him some (or may have already) is just as inexcusable. So, in reality, Daniel doesn't have a leg to stand on when the two situations are compared.
Both of the boys need to focus on the task at hand and give their hormones a break.
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COME ON, PEOPLE!!! For God's sake, he's not stupid, you know?!
Bree may not be herself yet, but we all know that she's in love with him, and he's in love with her!!! I mean, even if she flip out and try to escape later, this will only help to let her know that she did not kiss him as a manipulative move, she will know that her feelings for him are real, and that'll help her to come back!
And Jonas? He would never do anithing to harm her, and neither he would kiss her trying to "deprogramed" her. He just let go. And he must likely be regretting it now that Daniel must've seen the video already. After a good night sleep, he must've realized it wasn't the best time for that kiss, bur hey! WHAT'S DONE, IS DONE! And now is time to focus in bringing her back fully, and not in their puppy love. It'll be time for that once she's ok.
But people, seriously, Jonas already knows all this. He's not a kid and he'll see a way to make this ok for everybody.
I trust you Jonas!!! Take care.
Bree may not be herself yet, but we all know that she's in love with him, and he's in love with her!!! I mean, even if she flip out and try to escape later, this will only help to let her know that she did not kiss him as a manipulative move, she will know that her feelings for him are real, and that'll help her to come back!
And Jonas? He would never do anithing to harm her, and neither he would kiss her trying to "deprogramed" her. He just let go. And he must likely be regretting it now that Daniel must've seen the video already. After a good night sleep, he must've realized it wasn't the best time for that kiss, bur hey! WHAT'S DONE, IS DONE! And now is time to focus in bringing her back fully, and not in their puppy love. It'll be time for that once she's ok.
But people, seriously, Jonas already knows all this. He's not a kid and he'll see a way to make this ok for everybody.
I trust you Jonas!!! Take care.
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BrightSilence
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Damn, you've all gone mad.
Bree, well, it's clear that something is wrong with her. Probably can't blame her for that.
Daniel, because he wasn't really helping Bree out, while she is supposed to be his best friend. Who does that?
Jonas, has just been added to the list for even thinking about Bree as dating material at the moment and pissing off Daniel in the process. WRONG!
And Sarah, for posting that vid. Although that isn't by far as bad as the rest of it.
I've been thinking if we made a list of combinations of 2 of you who would have a reason to hate the other one...
Bree->Jonas NO
Bree->Daniel YES
Bree->Sarah YES
Jonas->Bree NO (at least I don't think so, maybe if she's playing him)
Jonas->Daniel YES
Jonas->Sarah YES
Daniel->Bree YES
Daniel->Jonas YES
Daniel->Sarah YES
Sarah->Bree NO
Sarah->Jonas NO
Sarah->Daniel NO
Make of it what you want, but I see far too many yes' there... The only person that doesn't really have something against someone else is Sarah. Therefor she might have the clearest point of view on this... I think I might go tell her that later.
Way to screw things up guys. Jonas, just talk to the others, patch things up. Convince them it wasn't your intention to hurt or use anyone.
Bree, well, it's clear that something is wrong with her. Probably can't blame her for that.
Daniel, because he wasn't really helping Bree out, while she is supposed to be his best friend. Who does that?
Jonas, has just been added to the list for even thinking about Bree as dating material at the moment and pissing off Daniel in the process. WRONG!
And Sarah, for posting that vid. Although that isn't by far as bad as the rest of it.
I've been thinking if we made a list of combinations of 2 of you who would have a reason to hate the other one...
Bree->Jonas NO
Bree->Daniel YES
Bree->Sarah YES
Jonas->Bree NO (at least I don't think so, maybe if she's playing him)
Jonas->Daniel YES
Jonas->Sarah YES
Daniel->Bree YES
Daniel->Jonas YES
Daniel->Sarah YES
Sarah->Bree NO
Sarah->Jonas NO
Sarah->Daniel NO
Make of it what you want, but I see far too many yes' there... The only person that doesn't really have something against someone else is Sarah. Therefor she might have the clearest point of view on this... I think I might go tell her that later.
Way to screw things up guys. Jonas, just talk to the others, patch things up. Convince them it wasn't your intention to hurt or use anyone.
There is no way that this translates into date rape without sex and without Jonas giving her drugs or being sure that there are drugs in her, LesterG. It is much more likely that Bree has experienced a lot of psychological manipulation to reprogram her, not drugs. Even if she was drugged they would likely not still be in her system or slowly be fading out. He is taking advantage of her, but what guy doesn't when a girl they've been attracted to finally shows them attention after a very, very long time? There hasn't been any sex (that we're aware of) and he hasn't secretively given her any kind of drug, so there is no date rape going on here, dude (I'm assuming you're a guy, my apologies if you're not).
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LesterG
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you don't know this...Pallidity wrote: It is much more likely that Bree has experienced a lot of psychological manipulation to reprogram her, not drugs.
that is the Worse Generalization of men ever...(man-hate much?) anyway, Doesn't make it right... imo, if you got game... you don't need to spit it when the girl is not in her right mind/drugged/influenced/vegetative state... Jonas is not some loser who can't get a girl...Pallidity wrote: Even if she was drugged they would likely not still be in her system or slowly be fading out. He is taking advantage of her, but what guy doesn't when a girl they've been attracted to finally shows them attention after a very, very long time?
Like I said it's the equivalent to it in my mind, but anyway... I think I'll quote Marbella from another thread about these threads...Pallidity wrote: There hasn't been any sex (that we're aware of) and he hasn't secretively given her any kind of drug, so there is no date rape going on here, dude (I'm assuming you're a guy, my apologies if you're not).
Marbella wrote:I'd also like to remind everyone that posts in this section are meant to be TO Jonas. They are freeform and whatever someone wants to express, but they need to be written to the character, not to the poster.