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Could you guys be any more dramatic for cryin' out loud? It was a kiss, dears and if you watched the footage carefully, Bree seemed to make the first move. As for showing Jonas "who's boss", I would have to say that the girls are pretty much in charge and the boys are just going along for the ride.

Seriously Daniel, don't overreact to this. After all, a kiss is just a kiss.
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Pound some sense into him Danny Boy! at least a good slap...
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Daniel, if you are a real man, you won't listen to these cavemen at all. If you feel you were slighted in any way, I'm truly sorry. But tearing into Jonas because you feel he took advantage of Bree won't solve anything. After all, do you really know what she was thinking? Perhaps she isn't as innocent as everyone here seems to think.
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Broken Kid wrote:I don't know, Daniel. This Jonas guy...he was trouble from the beginning... Pushes his way into your life offering to "help", but really, other than a place to hang out and some foosball competition, what help has he been?
Money. Transportation. Money. Transportation. Help in rescue. Money. Transportation. Another place to stay. Money. Transportation. Money. Transportation. Yet another place to stay. Money. Transportation. Money. Transportation. Money. Transportation. Money. Transportation. Help in another rescue. Money. Transportation. And yet another place to stay.

He's also been your friend.

Let's think about it for a second, Daniel.
Ziola wrote:Seriously Daniel, don't overreact to this. After all, a kiss is just a kiss.
Daniel certainly doesn't need to overreact, but to some people a kiss is very significant.
Ziola wrote:Daniel, if you are a real man, you won't listen to these cavemen at all. If you feel you were slighted in any way, I'm truly sorry. But tearing into Jonas because you feel he took advantage of Bree won't solve anything. After all, do you really know what she was thinking? Perhaps she isn't as innocent as everyone here seems to think.
Ziola's got the right idea here, Daniel.


And, again, Daniel, don't listen to the fucking clown. You saw "It," right?
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Lurker wrote:You start listening to Pennywise up there and everything's going to be fucked up.
You listen to Shirker and you'll end up getting shot, Daniel.

How stupid would it be to confront an armed man without arming yourself?

Go with the 12-gauge, or at least a pistol of your own.
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ApotheosisAZ wrote:
Lurker wrote:You start listening to Pennywise up there and everything's going to be fucked up.
You listen to Shirker and you'll end up getting shot, Daniel.

How stupid would it be to confront an armed man without arming yourself?

Go with the 12-gauge, or at least a pistol of your own.
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Since it seems you only listen to violence, I figured I would give it a try.

There is no reason to confront Jonas. I repeat, there is no reason to confront Jonas.

If anything, I would suggest perhaps asking Bree. After all, she's the reason you all feel the need to stir up trouble in the first place.
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Ziola wrote: *kicks Apo*

Since it seems you only listen to violence, I figured I would give it a try.

There is no reason to confront Jonas. I repeat, there is no reason to confront Jonas.

If anything, I would suggest perhaps asking Bree. After all, she's the reason you all feel the need to stir up trouble in the first place.
I would be carefull kicking him, I suspect him of carying a gun or 2.

But seriously, why are guns so normal. They do nothing but break things. I hate the 'american' view on guns...


You can easilly resolve this with common sense aswell, something you guys seem to have lost lately...
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Lurker wrote:Money. Transportation. Money. Transportation. Help in rescue. Money. Transportation. Another place to stay. Money. Transportation. Money. Transportation. Yet another place to stay. Money. Transportation. Money. Transportation. Money. Transportation. Money. Transportation. Help in another rescue. Money. Transportation. And yet another place to stay.

He's also been your friend.
Aw, you love him so much, why don't you kiss him? ;)
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If it was me, I wouldn't discuss it at all. Its really none of my business and its really none of your business either, Daniel. If either of them feel the need to approach you and discuss the change in their relationship, so be it. But to confront someone with footage that someone else took while sneaking around and spying on others really isn't the best move.

Bree isn't the person she was before she went willingly with the Hymn of One. She will never be that person again. You can't go through a lifechanging experience and expect to be exactly the same afterwards. We as humans just don't work that way. And since all we've seen of you interacting with her is you yelling at her, could it be at all possible that perhaps she is somewhat "healed" and made this choice on her own, with no pressure from Jonas?
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Ziola wrote: *kicks Apo*

Since it seems you only listen to violence, I figured I would give it a try.

There is no reason to confront Jonas. I repeat, there is no reason to confront Jonas.

If anything, I would suggest perhaps asking Bree. After all, she's the reason you all feel the need to stir up trouble in the first place.

ok ok Don't kill him, but he needs a good man-to-man talk, I know you want to protect your ''lil-sis''... so do your best not to overreact and sit him down for a serious talk...


if that fails, kick his ass...
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Daniel, you've always been the diplomat. When all around you were loosing their heads (caughJonasahem) you remained calm and dug to the core of the problem. I suggest you do this again. Jonas needs to become aware of how inappropriate his actions are and he won't listen if you do the macho the people here are suggesting. Nor will he know if you back away and do nothing as others suggest.

You've shown to us time and again your centered-ness. I know you have the ability to handle this with maturity and aplomb.
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sack36 wrote:Daniel, you've always been the diplomat. When all around you were loosing their heads (caughJonasahem) you remained calm and dug to the core of the problem. I suggest you do this again. Jonas needs to become aware of how inappropriate his actions are and he won't listen if you do the macho the people here are suggesting. Nor will he know if you back away and do nothing as others suggest.

You've shown to us time and again your centered-ness. I know you have the ability to handle this with maturity and aplomb.
this is good advice Daniel, hope you listen to this one...

I just like pressing Ziola's Buttons with the violence thing :P
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You just like pressing any of my buttons :smt080

And Daniel, I hope you won't let your emotions get the best of you on this one. It won't do any of you any good if you are all fighting. If anything, it will give the HoO just what they need...dissension in the ranks.
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Ziola wrote:You just like pressing any of my buttons :smt080

And Daniel, I hope you won't let your emotions get the best of you on this one. It won't do any of you any good if you are all fighting. If anything, it will give the HoO just what they need...dissension in the ranks.
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talk to him... talk to him like a man...

Jonas has no father-figure... you're the only one of the group who got the benefit of a family... your family stayed together while everyone else's fell to pieces...

use that...
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LesterG wrote:Jonas has no father-figure... you're the only one of the group who got the benefit of a family... your family stayed together while everyone else's fell to pieces...
use that...
Daniel's family fell to pieces too. They just didn't leave the house to do it.
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