208 - Holy SH%T [6/7/07]

pandababy · Post by **pandababy** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:42 am

MintyBeast wrote:I think we would all die of shock if there ever was a 10 minute lg15. Alas that is still a dream.

but dreams do come true!

MintyBeast · Post by **MintyBeast** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:50 am

I still dream of DB in boxers, not that crap they served us in crazy emo chick or whatever.

I never dreamed of Jonas kissing bree nor his shirt off. Bah, bah I say.

kwicherbichen · Post by **kwicherbichen** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:31 am

Minty, these two vids have been dreams come true for me... I wish there was some more action. A little more touching here and there... a little slip slip of some clothing, ya know... just to show where things might be headed. Th suspense is the sexiest part.

alysaface · Post by **alysaface** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:03 am

eww..

i dont want lg15 to turn into some digusting teenybopper version of mtv's undressed.

kwicherbichen · Post by **kwicherbichen** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:58 am

I wish I watched that show. But my brothers were always around.

Well, I did see one part. These two girls were almost naked and kissing infront of these two guys. Uhheehhh... girl on girl just doesn't do it for me. And half the cast was not hot so... I take back what I said.

Kanazaka · Post by **Kanazaka** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:51 pm

OK, interesting contradiction what with the spooky footage and music leading up to the Bree-Jonas make-out session, but this, too, felt a bit cheesy. Still, I'm glad it finally happened, so I didn't have to continue to wonder "will they or won't they, and if so, when?".

Charles Phoenix · Post by **Charles Phoenix** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:59 pm

alysaface wrote:eww..

i dont want lg15 to turn into some digusting teenybopper version of mtv's undressed.

better for it to be like undressed than say...dawsons creek... thx renagade

alysaface · Post by **alysaface** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:48 pm

ok, let me rephrase, i'd prefer for it to not be like either.. heh

mildlyunwell · Post by **mildlyunwell** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:13 pm

aboriginalgangster wrote:I hope everyone is satisfied. I certainly am not. Looking at this from a perspective that is NOT blinded by hormones that just makes me want to watch a couple of people makeout (go to a few parties and it gets old pretty quick, kids), I am furious. If the circumstances were normal, or at least, you know, normal for LG15, then I couldn't care less who kisses whom. That's not what I watch the series for (might be different if I found myself attracted to any of them, but that is not the case), but I don't mind it.

What makes me object is the total lack of ethics on the part of Jonas. He moved in so fast, it's almost as if he had been waiting for his moment to make a move and the moment he saw it, he moved in. Despite the fact that Bree is not exactly in her right mind, no, all that matters is that Jonas gets his rocks off. In fact, as some others have pointed out, it seems she has reverted back to a child-like state. How could this get any worse?

Is he taking advantage of her? Before I thought he wasn't, I thought he was just trying to help. Now I have no doubt that he is.

Could someone please tell me how this is any different from a guy taking advantage of a cute drunk girl at a party, who just so happens to be nearly unconscious on a couch? Coming from someone who has been at parties where girls have been raped (even friends of mine) and then seen what happens the next day, THIS IS NOT OKAY AT ALL AND IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.

Granted they are just making out, but you know what that can lead to. If this story arc goes in that direction, I'll be pretty miffed. As it stands now, not all is lost. Jonas can still make a vid explaining that what he was doing was wrong and the moment he realized that, he backed off.

Even so, I'm sure as soon as Bree recovers she's going to be pretty pissed at Jonas.

I think they did the deed.

If Jonas felt in his heart that she was "recovered" then I'm not sure I see the prob. One thing is that he and Beast are good friends and he knows damn well Daniel has feelings for her. That is reason enough not to go through with it.

mildlyunwell · Post by **mildlyunwell** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:18 pm

alysaface wrote:holy crap that was hot.

the two best videos in a very long time, and i don't get my email notifications. thats bullshitttt

Was it really hot? I thought it was kinda tame.

onsweetavenue · Post by **onsweetavenue** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:57 pm

spiff5000 wrote: Oh, they haven't been saints.

Daniel has developed a drinking problem during this period. We've seen him get sh*t-faced several times, which caused all sorts of problems.

Is that thankless and selfish or is that a problem that his parents passed down to him that he fell into when he was overwhelmed in pressure? Far different then being Bree. I never said he was a saint I just said he's never acted as selfish and thankless as bree has. Same with Jonas. He had every reason to be a little self involved and go looking for his parents but Bree kept forcing them to do her thing with little or no respect for what Jonas was going through. Jonas's gun was him being scared and trying to protect himself adn losing his cool.

Bree isn't having moments of weakness. Her selfish rude behavior is consistent unlike moments of weakness - drinking - for Daniel, and hot temper for Jonas (counting the gun and when he went up to punch the watcher). Both were understandable and both explained their behavior and apologized for it. Has bree ever acknowledged how selfish she is and how she takes advantage?

Once again, what I'm saying is plain and simple - neither have been like Bree. She has no consideration for the feelings and sacrifices of others.

sack36 · Post by **sack36** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:43 pm

aboriginalgangster wrote:

I hope everyone is satisfied. I certainly am not. What makes me object is the total lack of ethics on the part of Jonas. He moved in so fast, it's almost as if he had been waiting for his moment to make a move and the moment he saw it, he moved in.

To the contrary, Jonas and Bree have been showing themselves to be attracted to each other since before they left Jonas' house. Daniel and he even got into an altercation to that effect. In Texas, Sarah even pointed out how all over each other they were.

I believe Jonas saw their liaison as a natural extension of an attraction he has felt since he first met her. (How many men do you know who aren't gay, aren't your boyfriend, and aren't chefs that would bake you cookies?)

Despite the fact that Bree is not exactly in her right mind, no, all that matters is that Jonas gets his rocks off. In fact, as some others have pointed out, it seems she has reverted back to a child-like state. How could this get any worse?

The videos have shown her going in and out of lucidity. It hasn't been an all child-like state. We had several days of Bree and Jonas together where we didn't have a close-up view of her reactions. We don't know how much she had improved in that time period. Could it have been enough to dupe a love-sick Jonas? I don't know. None of us do at this point. I choose to believe that there was enough improvement that Jonas really believed he'd broken through the programming.

Could someone please tell me how this is any different from a guy taking advantage of a cute drunk girl at a party, who just so happens to be nearly unconscious on a couch? Coming from someone who has been at parties where girls have been raped (even friends of mine) and then seen what happens the next day, THIS IS NOT OKAY AT ALL AND IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.

Friends of yours were being raped at a party you were attending and you did nothing!? And you're dissing Jonas for kissing someone who was willingly kissing back?? Don't you think that's just a tad hypocritical?

Granted they are just making out, but you know what that can lead to. If this story arc goes in that direction, I'll be pretty miffed. As it stands now, not all is lost. Jonas can still make a vid explaining that what he was doing was wrong and the moment he realized that, he backed off.

Even so, I'm sure as soon as Bree recovers she's going to be pretty pissed at Jonas.

The idea that they were "just making out" is not supported by the evidence in my opinion. "Morning After" is well past the stage of making out. I know when a man, half nude, is in my bed first thing in the morning with a satisfied grin on his face, he didn't stop with heavy petting!

archangelica · Post by **archangelica** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:57 pm

These videos are starting to really make me ill.

Seriously ... with the implications of the videos, the character ages, etc ...

I'd rather watch some serious porn that see where these videos are going.

Ugh.

I hope this evolves soon. At my age, I don't feel very good AT ALL about watching teens make out.

Ugh!! (again.)

I didn't like the last two vids at all. Nice plot development, but ... gross.

kellylen · Post by **kellylen** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:58 pm

i hate jonas still if that helps anyone.

alysaface · Post by **alysaface** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:43 am

mildlyunwell wrote:
alysaface wrote:holy crap that was hot.

the two best videos in a very long time, and i don't get my email notifications. thats bullshitttt
Was it really hot? I thought it was kinda tame.

I'm not someone who watches porn on a regular basis, and since it's something alot of us have been waiting for.. Yes.. it was hot..