0211 - Everybody does it ;) [6/13/07]

[JustAnotherLonelyGirl.]

sarah mentions that jonas is no use to them if he cannot help them find bree...basically she tells him to get over it and help her find bree ~ and i find that very interesting. has she seemed at all interested in really finding bree up until this point?

i think there is more to this sarah than meets the eye...

I noticed that too. Since when does Sarah's main concern lie with Bree? It seemed out of character. She may just feel she needs to defend herself since Jonas is accusing Daniel and Sarah of screwing up their search for Bree.

[longlostposter]

Ok, I haven't read everything, but I have a something that I need to go on record as saying.

First of all, why are some people here acting like a woman who isn't repressing her sexual desires is either really messed up, or is a slut?

What isn't surprising about this, is that the majority of them are women. I will never understand why women want to be so hard on other women who have the guts to do exactly what they want without apology. It's just terrible, IMO. Perhaps you're worried about them coming after your guy?

The age of women feeling guilty about engaging in sex with whomever they want is over (Or at least I thought it was), as is the age of forced sexual repression. Please, females...get over it and be supportive of those that choose to allow themselves to be comfortable with who they are and what they want.

The words slut and whore should be stricken from the English language. They are simply out-dated.

BTW, thanks for putting me in your siggy, Charles.

Okay, let me get two things straight before I say what I'm about to say: 1) I LOVEEEEE Sarah. 2) I LOVE Juli.

And, I agree with you too. But, being the same age as Sarah, let me share a little of my own first hand experience here.

Sarah is what? 17? 18? She just graduated high school. As did I. I went through a phase much like Sarah's when I was 16 years old (though not to the extreme that Sarah talks about). I thought I'd never get married and I'd never fall in love. I was convinced I was done with love because of the heartache it had brought me in a previous relationship (in Sarah's case, it might just be witnessing that of her parents). I flirted a lot with every guy I knew and I purposely gave the impression that I was FAR more experienced than I was. Yes, I may have been somewhat experienced, but I was mostly just talk. This is the impression I'm getting from Sarah.

It's simple. She's only 17. As much as I support women being comfortable with their sexuality, Sarah shouldn't be so proud of fucking on every kitchen appliance known to man.

Since then, I've outgrown my "love sucks sex is fun" phase. As I am only 18, I have no authority sharing my sexual wisdom with any of you. Sarah may be experienced for a 17-year-old, but what the f**k does she know about love? Yes, young people can fall in love. But how many times could she possibly have been in love? Maybe she's conjured a certain perpective of love in her mind based on her parents' example. But how sad is it that a girl this young is convinced that love ruins sex?

Sex can be recreational, sure. And I'm not saying Sarah is a slut at all. But I highly doubt that she knows the key to life, which is how she makes it sound. And honestly, she's preaching to the wrong choir. We're talking about Jonas here, people. He isn't going to jump up like "OMG YOU'RE RIGHT" and realize that high-and-mighty Sarah knows all about sex and love, because she doesn't.

She's just a girl. This is all just a front. It's funny and cute. But she is human, and she isn't above love. Being open about sexuality is one thing - being 17 and convinced that love RUINS sex is another.

Thanks for the post, Loretta. It made me think a lot.

[Sheqinah]

Ok, I haven't read everything, but I have a something that I need to go on record as saying.

First of all, why are some people here acting like a woman who isn't repressing her sexual desires is either really messed up, or is a slut?

Perhaps you're worried about them coming after your guy?

The words slut and whore should be stricken from the English language. They are simply out-dated.

I thought I clarified the slut thing. She is not a slut. Skank yes, but not a slut LOL

Plus you can have my guy. Anyone?

[saralynn]

To those who get mad when us (as in girls) get disgusted at Sarah's behavior -- I could say the same about people who get annoyed at US getting annoyed.

If Sarah was like 20 I wouldn't have /so much/ of a problem with her promiscuous sex. By then she'd be old enough to understand the consequences, use protection, and probably not be such a fucking gloatful tramp about it. LOOK AT ALL THE PLACES I HAD SEX OOOO I'M SO SAUCY AND MATURE.

She's a KID, and she's a parent's worst nightmare. She doesn't have grasp enough on the world to be considered the adult she is trying to act like.

Bottom line, for me? I've been friends with people like her, and they get old fast. Nobody cares what you did last night, and she's exactly the type to brag so she can get attention.

[Charles Phoenix]

ETA: I think for some reason the creatatrons want Sarah to look young...hence the pigtail-like hair.

actually the messy pigtail like bunches that sarah wears, when her hair isnt completely down, are an Alexandra thing... ive seen her wear her hair like that in non LG photos a good bit...

i dont think the creators say anything about how the actors should do thier hair... they just do things as they like... (eg... jessicas hilights around the mexico trip, and yousef giving himself random haircuts in the series)

[longlostposter]

To those who get mad when us (as in girls) get disgusted at Sarah's behavior -- I could say the same about people who get annoyed at US getting annoyed.

If Sarah was like 20 I wouldn't have /so much/ of a problem with her promiscuous sex. By then she'd be old enough to understand the consequences, use protection, and probably not be such a fucking gloatful tramp about it. LOOK AT ALL THE PLACES I HAD SEX OOOO I'M SO SAUCY AND MATURE.

She's a KID, and she's a parent's worst nightmare. She doesn't have grasp enough on the world to be considered the adult she is trying to act like.

Bottom line, for me? I've been friends with people like her, and they get old fast. Nobody cares what you did last night, and she's exactly the type to brag so she can get attention.

This was not a useless vlog on her part from her perspective. She was trying to jump start Jonas into using his brain to find Bree.

If you are annoyed that I'm annoyed that people should be allowed to do and speak as they want to, then I'm very sorry I annoyed you. However, I am not annoyed that you spoke your mind...just annoyed that it is such a narrow-minded one.

[betz28]

sarah mentions that jonas is no use to them if he cannot help them find bree...basically she tells him to get over it and help her find bree ~ and i find that very interesting. has she seemed at all interested in really finding bree up until this point?

i think there is more to this sarah than meets the eye...

I noticed that too. Since when does Sarah's main concern lie with Bree? It seemed out of character. She may just feel she needs to defend herself since Jonas is accusing Daniel and Sarah of screwing up their search for Bree.

you are correct...she may feel that need as well...but it still felt odd to me she showed an interest...

but its almost like..."ok I helped you find bree...now she is here with us...i can keep an eye on her and report everything i need to the higher ups" but what she didnt realize is bree has been disappearing for quite a while now. maybe the order did not fill her in on this little detail...

[saralynn]

Also, I think the video is pushing further towards the idea of a 2 vs 2 in the series. Jonas isn't gonna like what Sarah said it all, I doubt he'll even consider any of it. He's gonna be pissed and in turn be pissed at Daniel, blah blah blah..

I just wonder how long it takes them to get sick of Jonas. He's becoming a hard person to live with. Although, he is the man with the resources. I don't know how easily they'll ditch him if they want to continue the search, unless Sarah has some stash of money from saving up for Ozzfest or something.

[longlostposter]

Plus you can have my guy. Anyone?

Why would I want him if you don't? lol

*hums Paul Simon's "Fifty Ways to Leave Your Lover"*

[saralynn]

To those who get mad when us (as in girls) get disgusted at Sarah's behavior -- I could say the same about people who get annoyed at US getting annoyed.

If Sarah was like 20 I wouldn't have /so much/ of a problem with her promiscuous sex. By then she'd be old enough to understand the consequences, use protection, and probably not be such a fucking gloatful tramp about it. LOOK AT ALL THE PLACES I HAD SEX OOOO I'M SO SAUCY AND MATURE.

She's a KID, and she's a parent's worst nightmare. She doesn't have grasp enough on the world to be considered the adult she is trying to act like.

Bottom line, for me? I've been friends with people like her, and they get old fast. Nobody cares what you did last night, and she's exactly the type to brag so she can get attention.

This was not a useless vlog on her part from her perspective. She was trying to jump start Jonas into using his brain to find Bree.

If you are annoyed that I'm annoyed that people should be allowed to do and speak as they want to, then I'm very sorry I annoyed you. However, I am not annoyed that you spoke your mind...just annoyed that it is such a narrow-minded one.

No, she didn't think it was useless. In fact near the end I mentioned she makes good points, but it's totally fruitless because Jonas will not listen.

You didn't annoy me, I probably didn't word it the way I wanted to -- I do that a lot. It's just the way the world works, I think she's a ho and you can be mad at me for thinking she's one, just like I can be mad at you for NOT thinking she's a ho. It's just the same thing, in reverse.

We all come from tons of different backgrounds and upbringings. A person's upbringing has a lot to do with how they view sex, so you can try and change people's minds about it but most of us had some hard-set wiring done by our parents. ;P I will think she's a ho, just like I've thought a lot of other previous girlfriends were hos and dumped them like trash.

To be fair, Sarah has grown on me SLIGHTLY. Slightly. I'm still not crazy about her, but she's been sneaking in some redeeming moments here and there.

I'm not annoyed at you, really, I just suck at putting my words together. I always say -- there's no hard feelings on the internet!

[longlostposter]

I will think she's a ho, just like I've thought a lot of other previous girlfriends were hos and dumped them like trash.

No human being is worthless.

[JustAnotherLonelyGirl.]

I will think she's a ho, just like I've thought a lot of other previous girlfriends were hos and dumped them like trash.

I'm sure they missed you terribly..

[joygasm]

Wow... You know, Lurker... I hate to say this, but your girl is starting to get on my nerves. I will agree that sex is fun, and I believe you and I could make it extra fun, but that's goes without saying.

But not without doing.

In all the places Sarah mentioned... multiple times.

I will think she's a ho, just like I've thought a lot of other previous girlfriends were hos and dumped them like trash.

I'm sure they missed you terribly..

ROFL!

[betz28]

but SEX was not the purpose of her video....hidden message

"help me find bree"

i could be wrong...i probably am

[tripwires]

sooo. sarah=slut...sex is for fun? WHAT? omg. NO! sex is better when its based on love!

It is BETTER when based on love, but it's fun either way!

I totally agree, but I can also understand that people are reluctant to be naked around persons that they don't know. But having sex without love definitly doesn't make you a slut.

Changing of men every week or so...that would make you an unstable female....