Where is LG15 Going?

ArgenteumAstrum · Post by **ArgenteumAstrum** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:59 pm

Hey Guys -

So I just wanted to see what everyone thought thus far. I have a few ideas as to where the story is heading and my generalized idea of what the Hymn of One's goal is. I'm just curious as to what everyone else thinks.

Like I've said, with the recent introduction of the Gilman's and the research I've done on Spencer's hero...I'm starting to think that the HoO is trying to figure out some way to get it's followers to live forever. The reoccurance of the infinity symbol, the fact that Spencer's hero did research on the origins of human life...I don't know, it all seems odd to me.

What does everyone else think?

truncatedslinky · Post by **truncatedslinky** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:53 am

Well, on the comment board, some of the science-minded folk did some research on the diagrams in Bree's dad's notebook, and from what I understood, Bree's genes have some sort of code that keeps your genes from breaking down? You'd need to ask a person named meepers_anonymous to get a good explanation, but I think that's a definite possibility. PLus, I mean, ETERNAL song, and Bree says she'll be happy FOREVER? Those are pretty big terms to be throwing around.

exanimatebylove · Post by **exanimatebylove** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:12 am

That's just odd and creepy. I mean who'd want to live FOREVER. Ish. Anyways....I have no idea where the story is going. There are FAR too many open endings.

wordfish · Post by **wordfish** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:15 am

well, just to kind of play devil's advocate here (and i think i'm actually leaning more toward personally agreeing with you than not), don't most religions throw around terms like "eternal" and "forever"? I mean, look at Christianity. "Eternal soul" "live forever in the kingdom of heaven" "and ye shall never perish" and so forth and so on.

garnet · Post by **garnet** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:41 am

Yes, Ag* the evidence points to HoO scientists trying to create eternal life. This includes:

- Infinity symbol on Epogen box and Wyman website
- question about aging on HoO audition
- reference to Stanley Miller on Spencer Gilman's myspace
- notebook with DNA info

I would also say that based on the bandages which occasionally appear on Bree's arm, the Order has been withdrawing her blood in order to conduct experiments.

There is an irony here. According to Judeo-Christian theology (the story of Adam and Eve), human beings had eternal life in the Garden, but because God gave us Free Will, we chose Knowledge of Good and Evil, and in doing so, were made mortal.

The whole point of that story is to explain that if we lived forever and had everything we wanted, we would all be in la-la-land like Bree, and we wouldn't be able to appreciate the wonderful things around us. By experiencing the depths as well as the heights, we increase the absolute value of our lives. Sarah, right now, is Bree's polar opposite as she apparently revels in sorrow.

Mianess · Post by **Mianess** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:09 pm

garnet wrote:Yes, Ag* the evidence points to HoO scientists trying to create eternal life. This includes:

- Infinity symbol on Epogen box and Wyman website
- question about aging on HoO audition
- reference to Stanley Miller on Spencer Gilman's myspace
- notebook with DNA info

I would also say that based on the bandages which occasionally appear on Bree's arm, the Order has been withdrawing her blood in order to conduct experiments.

There is an irony here. According to Judeo-Christian theology (the story of Adam and Eve), human beings had eternal life in the Garden, but because God gave us Free Will, we chose Knowledge of Good and Evil, and in doing so, were made mortal.

The whole point of that story is to explain that if we lived forever and had everything we wanted, we would all be in la-la-land like Bree, and we wouldn't be able to appreciate the wonderful things around us. By experiencing the depths as well as the heights, we increase the absolute value of our lives. Sarah, right now, is Bree's polar opposite as she apparently revels in sorrow.

Wow, that was really good, totally agree.

Spades · Post by **Spades** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:01 pm

Eternal life would really suck. Seriously, that kind of takes the whole challenge of life away.

But who says the Order/HoO is going to give this "life" to its followers, instead of just in the higher ranks? I mean, I do not think that Bree has that much blood to give it to everyone.

Mianess · Post by **Mianess** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:03 pm

I don't think it's so much her giving her blood. I think it's more that they are testing it to see how they can make everyone elses the same....ya know?

Skunkwaffle · Post by **Skunkwaffle** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:23 pm

Ooooh maybe they made a clone of Bree.

Maybe Jonas & Daniel & Sarah captured the clone instead of the real thing.

Maybe the real Bree is like, chained up in a basement with all kinds of tubes and wires and stuff hooked up to her.

kellylen · Post by **kellylen** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:26 pm

or in a pod like in the matrix

RoseCrowley · Post by **RoseCrowley** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:57 pm

the fountain of youth

robtomorrow · Post by **robtomorrow** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:14 pm

Mianess · Post by **Mianess** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:16 pm

robtomorrow wrote:

lmao that was clever

robtomorrow · Post by **robtomorrow** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:24 pm

Mianess wrote:
lmao that was clever

Thanks, but it isn't mine, it is an illustration I came across for an article about RNA that seemed relevant.

http://www.economist.com/opinion/displa ... id=9339752

suze900 · Post by **suze900** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:20 pm

I think you guys are right, that this has something to do with a life-extending genetic factor that they've bred into Bree. I also think that the Ceremony is going to involve sacrificing Bree, to obtain as much of the "trait" as possible.

In my theory, her adoptive parents had received her as a baby to raise for the order as a potential candidate, and when the time came and she was found to be the "Chosen One," they had gotten attached to her, as parents do, and couldn't go through with giving her up to be sacrificed.

That could be why the Watchers are so careful around her, and why they all seem not to want to hurt her. She's a prize specimen.

This reminds me a bit of the short story "The Lottery", but in an extended form. Also the movie "The Wicker Man", but in this case <spoilers> I don't think they're really after Daniel or Jonas or Sarah or Taylor.

The Wikipedia article on Human Sacrifice is awful to read, but interesting.