Do you have problems in growing up, Bree?
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Do you have problems in growing up, Bree?
Hi Bree,
I saw your last video and it sounds as if you find it difficult to take the responsibilities of a grown-up person.
Yes, when you are a child, you don`t have responsibilities: Your parents care for your food, your clothes, your shelter. But: As soon as you grow up, you get responsible for yourself. That does mean you must take care of these things. If you don`t, no one else will. You must take care that you have some bread in the fridge - if you don`t , there won`t be any. You must take care that your house looks beautiful and clean (unless you have someone to take care of that whom you pay, but then, you must take care that he or she is paid).
Of course, this is a lot more responsibility and sometimes less fun. But on the other hand: You can decide for yourself what you eat, what you wear, what you do and where you go to. In other words, you have more freedom to decide for yourself what you do. Do you have problems with living freely, Bree? Is that the reason why you went back to the Hymn of One?
Freedom depends on responsibility and it depends on taking care of yourself. Is that too difficult for you? Do you want someone else to take care for you and therefore, you went for the Hymn of One?
I would be happy to receive an answer.
Yours
New Voice of Reason
PS: Read "What is enlightenment?" by E. Kant.
I saw your last video and it sounds as if you find it difficult to take the responsibilities of a grown-up person.
Yes, when you are a child, you don`t have responsibilities: Your parents care for your food, your clothes, your shelter. But: As soon as you grow up, you get responsible for yourself. That does mean you must take care of these things. If you don`t, no one else will. You must take care that you have some bread in the fridge - if you don`t , there won`t be any. You must take care that your house looks beautiful and clean (unless you have someone to take care of that whom you pay, but then, you must take care that he or she is paid).
Of course, this is a lot more responsibility and sometimes less fun. But on the other hand: You can decide for yourself what you eat, what you wear, what you do and where you go to. In other words, you have more freedom to decide for yourself what you do. Do you have problems with living freely, Bree? Is that the reason why you went back to the Hymn of One?
Freedom depends on responsibility and it depends on taking care of yourself. Is that too difficult for you? Do you want someone else to take care for you and therefore, you went for the Hymn of One?
I would be happy to receive an answer.
Yours
New Voice of Reason
PS: Read "What is enlightenment?" by E. Kant.
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Along the same lines, Bree, think about this:
What is the evidence for the statements you make and the beliefs you have about the Hymn of One? What is the evidence against it?
Do the pros and cons for yourself, and I'll bet you'll find a lot of evidence against the idea that being childlike is the best solution to your problems. In addition, you'll probably find evidence against the fact that coming to the Hymn of One is the best decision you could have made (four things I can think of off the top of my head: Jonas, Daniel, Taylor, Sarah. Ok, make that 3 more: P Monkey, Thor, Owen).
You are a strong person. You have the ability to set things right.
Unless, of course, you are with the Order to protect the ones you love. However, I'm sure you won't be able to tell us that until much further down the line if that is the case.
What is the evidence for the statements you make and the beliefs you have about the Hymn of One? What is the evidence against it?
Do the pros and cons for yourself, and I'll bet you'll find a lot of evidence against the idea that being childlike is the best solution to your problems. In addition, you'll probably find evidence against the fact that coming to the Hymn of One is the best decision you could have made (four things I can think of off the top of my head: Jonas, Daniel, Taylor, Sarah. Ok, make that 3 more: P Monkey, Thor, Owen).
You are a strong person. You have the ability to set things right.
Unless, of course, you are with the Order to protect the ones you love. However, I'm sure you won't be able to tell us that until much further down the line if that is the case.
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Hi Erica,
well.... I think you MUSt understand Bree`s mind better than I do, because you MANIPULATED it;-).
I just try to make her think. I guess she has not many chances to do so, now that she is with the HoO. She will be hardly left in peace and alone; even in this video, we see Carl in the back. (To keep someone occupied and not giving him or her space and time to think is a very typical technique of cults to keep them from re-capitulating from what is going on).
And Bree,
if you are free to think for yourself, then proove it - and answer my post, please...
Yours
New voice of reason
well.... I think you MUSt understand Bree`s mind better than I do, because you MANIPULATED it;-).
I just try to make her think. I guess she has not many chances to do so, now that she is with the HoO. She will be hardly left in peace and alone; even in this video, we see Carl in the back. (To keep someone occupied and not giving him or her space and time to think is a very typical technique of cults to keep them from re-capitulating from what is going on).
And Bree,
if you are free to think for yourself, then proove it - and answer my post, please...
Yours
New voice of reason
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I didn't see Carl in the latest video. That so sweet that he is spending time with Bree. He is such a sweetheart.New voice of reason wrote:Hi Erica,
well.... I think you MUSt understand Bree`s mind better than I do, because you MANIPULATED it;-).
I just try to make her think. I guess she has not many chances to do so, now that she is with the HoO. She will be hardly left in peace and alone; even in this video, we see Carl in the back. (To keep someone occupied and not giving him or her space and time to think is a very typical technique of cults to keep them from re-capitulating from what is going on).
And Bree,
if you are free to think for yourself, then proove it - and answer my post, please...
Yours
New voice of reason
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