[Puzzle] The Message: What is being asked of us? 10/21

prep him · Post by **prep him** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:37 pm

taiya wrote:Ooo, steganography looks cool and seems to fit in nicely with analyze. I'm going to look somemore.

I like the idea of knitting in code. Perhaps I'll send Opaphid a scarf.

Hmm, just realized that the "Alas" in "Alas, never interrupt an enemy.." quote is not part of the original quote. It seems to have been put there for a reason. Perhaps it is just the first letters in the quotes somehow.

Yeah, a few of the quotes have inaccuracies or "mistakes". Alas is one of them, and another should say "of", and another should say "your". I just woke up so I don't remember specifically which ones are messed up, but those are the three.

Antissa Pompeii · Post by **Antissa Pompeii** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:42 pm

Well, it's entierly possible that she put those "mistakes" in there to make all of the message actually sound like a nice flowing monologue, rather than a jumble of quotes. Maybe she did that to make it harder.

prep him · Post by **prep him** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:47 pm

Nevermind what I said - whoever initially transcribed the quotes from the audio message made the mistakes. OpAphid had them correct on the VM. The first post in this thread has them corrected now, and everything is accurate - with the exception of "Alas".

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:51 pm

prep him wrote:"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake"

thats sexist, why is everyones enemy necessarily a he?
shesshhhhh if i was a big fat hairy middle aged women with no job i would sue you!!

Briphelia · Post by **Briphelia** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:17 pm

It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.
[Voltaire]

Alas, never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake.
[Napoleon]

Mistakes are the portals to discovery.
[James Joyce]

Maybe having those first two next to each other is a clue: the creators/CiW/the Order/ie. "the established authorities" have made some sort of mistake that we can learn from?
Just throwing out ideas now... I'm dying for another clue.

Luv2Luvem · Post by **Luv2Luvem** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:09 pm

Alright, I've played around a bit trying to decipher the meaning "within" the message we have been given. I am convinced that the is a hidden message, but without some sort of key it seems like a waste of time. So I started thinking about the order of the quotes and I'm not convinced they are in the right order that we need them to be.

I have tried different orders. I have tried to find out when the quotes were exactly said, but that is next to imposible to find out. Then I put the quotes in order of the authors' birth years (since some are not yet dead) but I can't find any info about the Glasgow guy.

So I thought I would put them in alphabetical order but there again I ran into problems. For instance, do we use the first or last names? And what about Aristole, he only has one name. And then there is Voltaire, do we use his given name, or pen name?

Of course I could be running in circles because the order really doesn't need to be changed.

I was just trying to look at all the angles.

covedweller · Post by **covedweller** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:12 pm

reading the profile update. apparently this phone message is to be taken literally!

so what is it telling us to do then if we read it simply as instruction?

Luv2Luvem · Post by **Luv2Luvem** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:16 pm

covedweller wrote:reading the profile update. apparently this phone message is to be taken literally!

so what is it telling us to do then if we read it simply as instruction?

I don't think the phone message is supposed to be taken literally, only because before it said this, it said to remember things in our history (or to look at past clues...idk something like that) I think she's saying that some of the past clues, or something in the past should be taken at face value.

covedweller · Post by **covedweller** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:47 pm

"Each success only buys an admission ticket to a more difficult problem."

That is a preface also.

So go in between that and the "And then" for the message?

covedweller · Post by **covedweller** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:48 pm

Luv2Luvem wrote:
covedweller wrote:reading the profile update. apparently this phone message is to be taken literally!

so what is it telling us to do then if we read it simply as instruction?
I don't think the phone message is supposed to be taken literally, only because before it said this, it said to remember things in our history (or to look at past clues...idk something like that) I think she's saying that some of the past clues, or something in the past should be taken at face value.

I thought the opposite. Message was literal, the P in APHID was from looking at something hidden in a past clue...

martha · Post by **martha** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:52 pm

iamcool wrote:
prep him wrote:"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake"
thats sexist, why is everyones enemy necessarily a he?
shesshhhhh if i was a big fat hairy middle aged women with no job i would sue you!!

Lame. and not funny. He is the term that people have been using for ages. It was once grammatically correct, if it isn't now.

covedweller · Post by **covedweller** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:08 pm

so okay, PROTECT.

that is the P in APHID.

so what does this message instruct us to do regarding that?

Destrin41016 · Post by **Destrin41016** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:10 pm

for the H in APHID video description...do we know wat it means?

On a clover, if alive, erupts a vast, pure evil; a fire volcano.

No evil I did, I live on.

We panic in a pew.

Won't lovers revolt now?

I've let a name emanate: Levi

Luv2Luvem · Post by **Luv2Luvem** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:21 pm

Destrin41016 wrote:for the H in APHID video description...do we know wat it means?

On a clover, if alive, erupts a vast, pure evil; a fire volcano.

No evil I did, I live on.

We panic in a pew.

Won't lovers revolt now?

I've let a name emanate: Levi

Every line is a palindrome. That's all I know.

taiya · Post by **taiya** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:51 pm

I think we really need to figure out where the established authorities are wrong and find mistakes. Then we will know what to do at the right time and in the right way. I think it must have something to do with speaking something as well.

I'm just not sure where to look for mistakes. Alas seems to be the only obvious one in the message. The established authority is either opaphid, lonelygirl or cassie. Cassie seems to have made the most mistakes. Any ideas on what those mistakes might be?