The Mole/TCC?

[thoughtssopoetic]

Aw poor Betz
I know I want to go to bed but now i'm all excited!
Unfortunatly I will probably now only get 4-5 hours of sleep before I have to wake up for work tomarrow. Darn it

I think it's Alex because.
1) It sounds like her
2) Even if people say it's pitched a little lower I think she was doing it on purpose to try not to be recognized
3) This is why DB didn't say anything, cause he didn't recognize her.
4) He also couldn't know it was her because he could see her just about as well as we can (which is why this thread is here now )
5) Even if he could maybe he didn't want to blow her cover
6) Maybe he wasn't thinking about who it was he just wanted info so he didn't pay attention

That is what I didn't do!
Pitch!
I will go play with the pitch of alex's voice also...
and see if i can isolate daniel's voice in this video to see if he may have said something as reaction to the voice.

*crosses fingers. jason(my brother) pleaseee stay out late tonight. You want to go get drunk and not come home until four o'clock. pleaseeee*

[watching_watchers]

God damn it. Now I think its Beth. >.<

Now we need to start a new poll for those of us in this poll who've changed our minds! LOL

I know right. lmao.

[Les_128]

God damn it. Now I think its Beth. >.<

Now we need to start a new poll for those of us in this poll who've changed our minds! LOL

Not sure why but both of these posts made me laugh out loud

I love this place

[Aponi]

I love this place too
And if you missed it, I edited another point.
While we can't see her face, we have a fairly clear shot of her body.
And it looks like a really slim person. Alex is really slim. Beth seems a bit heavier and taller.
There's a pic on pg 1 if you wanna see.

[thoughtssopoetic]

Here you go, sorry this took me so long.

1) It took me for-freaking-ever to isolate beth's voice
2) daniel does react. Before this mystery person talks but when he notices her he says "oh shi-" and I think his breathing got a bit louder. When mystery person actually says something I think it sounded like he semi gasped/muttered something. I couldn't figure out what exactly. I also couldn't hear that on the video just with my ear, but trust me, that is what it sounded like.
3) I messed with Alex's pitch, something I totally forgot to do in the first place (thank you Julie for pointing this out). I guess some people said her pitch was too low to be Alex's. I am even more convinced it is Alex now.
4) Messed with Nikki B's voice (just because it was mentioned a couple times). No way. At all.
5) Okay, onto Beth. I really don't think so. I will admit it did sound familiar (from what I could isolate) but not nearly like as close as Alex's voice did. I only had a couple sentences from her to work off of, with Alex I had her voice many times, and in different types of situations. Beth's voice is kind of broad, deeper than Alex's but she speaks faster and she puts tension on her words in a totally different way than that of the voice in the video.
6) My conclusion: Alex. Definitely, it sounded closer, the stress and tension on her words matched, the speed of mystery wench's speaking was identical to Alex's in "Alex Is..."
I definitely think it was Alex.
Me and my kick-ass CSI skillz contend, it was so Alex.

[iamcool]

its the lips and voice that convinced me, i think its beth

[Skunkwaffle]

Here you go, sorry this took me so long.

1) It took me for-freaking-ever to isolate beth's voice
2) daniel does react. Before this mystery person talks but when he notices her he says "oh shi-" and I think his breathing got a bit louder. When mystery person actually says something I think it sounded like he semi gasped/muttered something. I couldn't figure out what exactly. I also couldn't hear that on the video just with my ear, but trust me, that is what it sounded like.
3) I messed with Alex's pitch, something I totally forgot to do in the first place (thank you Julie for pointing this out). I guess some people said her pitch was too low to be Alex's. I am even more convinced it is Alex now.
4) Messed with Nikki B's voice (just because it was mentioned a couple times). No way. At all.
5) Okay, onto Beth. I really don't think so. I will admit it did sound familiar (from what I could isolate) but not nearly like as close as Alex's voice did. I only had a couple sentences from her to work off of, with Alex I had her voice many times, and in different types of situations. Beth's voice is kind of broad, deeper than Alex's but she speaks faster and she puts tension on her words in a totally different way than that of the voice in the video.
6) My conclusion: Alex. Definitely, it sounded closer, the stress and tension on her words matched, the speed of mystery wench's speaking was identical to Alex's in "Alex Is..."
I definitely think it was Alex.
Me and my kick-ass CSI skillz contend, it was so Alex.

Even if you're wrong, you're totally my hero!

[thoughtssopoetic]

Here you go, sorry this took me so long.

1) It took me for-freaking-ever to isolate beth's voice
2) daniel does react. Before this mystery person talks but when he notices her he says "oh shi-" and I think his breathing got a bit louder. When mystery person actually says something I think it sounded like he semi gasped/muttered something. I couldn't figure out what exactly. I also couldn't hear that on the video just with my ear, but trust me, that is what it sounded like.
3) I messed with Alex's pitch, something I totally forgot to do in the first place (thank you Julie for pointing this out). I guess some people said her pitch was too low to be Alex's. I am even more convinced it is Alex now.
4) Messed with Nikki B's voice (just because it was mentioned a couple times). No way. At all.
5) Okay, onto Beth. I really don't think so. I will admit it did sound familiar (from what I could isolate) but not nearly like as close as Alex's voice did. I only had a couple sentences from her to work off of, with Alex I had her voice many times, and in different types of situations. Beth's voice is kind of broad, deeper than Alex's but she speaks faster and she puts tension on her words in a totally different way than that of the voice in the video.
6) My conclusion: Alex. Definitely, it sounded closer, the stress and tension on her words matched, the speed of mystery wench's speaking was identical to Alex's in "Alex Is..."
I definitely think it was Alex.
Me and my kick-ass CSI skillz contend, it was so Alex.

Even if you're wrong, you're totally my hero!

Haha, thanks.

I am seriously driving myself crazy now...because I keep on looking at the screen shots and thinking "holy crap it is beth" then going "noooooooo, it can't be. I spent hours messing around with this, I HAVE to be right!! (and I nearly got skinned by my brother)" or "but, but, but the voices are telling me otherwise"
Then I realise exactly how lame I sound.

Someone needs sleep.
^^

[silverblue]

I seriously think that it could possibly be Sonia or Rebecca.

Do we have pictures of either of them?

I hope Beth... but that Alex is involved somehow.

[bianca23]

I think it is Beth. I just saw the Uncle Dan video and her voice is exactly the same. And her face (nose and eyes) are the same.

And besides, if it was Alex, don't you think Daniel would have reconized her? I mean, they've spend a lot of time together when she was with them. I guess he would have said something like "Alex, is that you" or "Alex, what are you doing here?"

[blade8r]

it's alex no contest. im an expert at being lazy'd out so i did no investigation what so ever.

i am dead sure it's alex.

well i did play that one video where jonas pulls db away because he find out alex is in the order and alex has her soliloquy. both of them sound the same.

[chershaytoute]

What, it's Betz? I thought I was the mole there for a minute, and now I find out it's Betz?

No, wait a second. I have GOT to read more closely...

Do you really want to know what orange juice and laptop keyboards have in common at my house? (I didn't think you did)

I'm still working on the Auntie version of things.

[Spades]

The mole has rather large eyes, more pointed eyebrows, and bigger lips than Alex. The shape of the nose is also much different than the flat nostril area that Alex has, while Beth's has more of an all around round end.

At a glance, both women actually look pretty similiar, but there are differences.

As for voice, I really don't feel like watching the party vid for the 100th time. We need a new way to identify people.

[Raven_Night]

Here you go, sorry this took me so long.
2) daniel does react. Before this mystery person talks but when he notices her he says "oh shi-" and I think his breathing got a bit louder. When mystery person actually says something I think it sounded like he semi gasped/muttered something. I couldn't figure out what exactly. I also couldn't hear that on the video just with my ear, but trust me, that is what it sounded like.

He could have been startled.

And at the beginning, it sounds like he mumbles 'I don't know why I'm even-' before he does the 'oh shi-' thing.

[thoughtssopoetic]

Here you go, sorry this took me so long.
2) daniel does react. Before this mystery person talks but when he notices her he says "oh shi-" and I think his breathing got a bit louder. When mystery person actually says something I think it sounded like he semi gasped/muttered something. I couldn't figure out what exactly. I also couldn't hear that on the video just with my ear, but trust me, that is what it sounded like.

He could have been startled.

I know, but people were asking why he didn't react, so I found his reaction.
I was not using that as a point saying it was Alex, I was just pointing that out.
Of course he was startled, he was in a dark alley and some person just approached him.