I think that carl is the mole!!

thoughtssopoetic · Post by **thoughtssopoetic** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:56 am

kellylen wrote:
TOSG wrote: But it did look like Carl was giving sort of a knowing wink at the end of the video.
yeah tahts what i meant. that smile was way creepy

also, one thing I kind of noticed but don't really think it holds much potential is what he said during the follow your happiness video...
the stuff about hands, reaching out and helping others...

i don't know...

I still am saying Alex, because of the recent video

chershaytoute · Post by **chershaytoute** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:31 pm

I dunno... I just said I thought maybe Auntie Alex was the mole in another thread, since the Deep Throat that met up with Daniel was definitely a female voice... And with the Sid the Clown clue, I'm still thinking Alex, but the thought that Sonia was in charge of where the stones were...that adds something...and she DOES know Alex (maybe the two of 'em working together?)

bianca23 · Post by **bianca23** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:53 pm

I don't think Carl is the mole, judging from the last video it's Beth. But he could be helping Beth with writing the HoO vids (with Bree) to put the secret messages in it.

GenocideInMyMind wrote:I still don't agree that Carl is the mole. You see, at The Hymn of One Seminar; it wasn't Carl that put the fliers beneath the red and blue stones. It was Sonia, and I saw this with my own eyes by the way. So, there is definitely some kind of connection with Sonia. She also picked the teams; the red stones and the blue stones. This game determined who would pick up which flier. The stone idea was all hers as far as I'm concerned.

Carl could have said to Sonia where she had to put the fliers, under the blue or under the red stone. Carl has a big part in the seminair and in the HoO vids, so that means he had a kind of leading role in the HoO. So he can organize a lot to help Beth with her mole actions.

So, Beth is the mole but Carl could be helping her with it.

jdolorous · Post by **jdolorous** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:41 pm

Just remember Genocide SAW everything that happened.

bianca23 · Post by **bianca23** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:56 pm

jdolorous wrote:Just remember Genocide SAW everything that happened.

Yeah, but maybe he didn't saw Carl saying to Sonia where she had to put the fliers.

GenocideInMyMind · Post by **GenocideInMyMind** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:03 pm

Sonia actually had an equal role in the seminar. Yes, I wouldn't have known if Carl would have told Sonia where to place the stones; but then again- there were two seperate fliers. There were fliers that didn't lead you anywhere and then there were the ones specifically placed beneath the blue stone. If Carl was so 'nonchalant' about this to Sonia; would you seriously think that she would keep the fliers 'seperated' as she did without being suspicious of Carl? Why would Carl go that much out of his way to target Sonia, his girlfriend? I mean, do you honestly think that Carl is going to set up his girlfriend in something so risky that she may possibly be harmed by The Order? Anyways; to keep this as IG as possible- the creators wouldn't put in such minor details as to 'not seeing' someone whisper this or that to someone else at the seminar. This would be a very important bit of evidence, and I'm sure if it was that important- it would have been filmed.

What about Rebecca? She appears as a hostess for both the party and The Hymn of One Seminar- she may possibly be a very important and very overlooked character herself. She also has 'tea' with Daniel in the video, "Oh, The Places You'll Go." She is a friend of Alex's, and of course, of everyone whom attended the party since obviously she was the hostess. She also knows Lucy, and apparently went to school with her. She 'says' that she has no information about The Hymn of One or The Order; but then again- when have the supportive members of The Order not lied to DBJ? For more info:
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/ind ... le=Rebecca
And for the video:
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=257

Oh, and for a future note: I'm not a 'HE.' I am a 'SHE.' I should be rather familiar considering my name is JENNIFER.

wordfish · Post by **wordfish** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:12 pm

i guess i missed something, but if someone could direct me to the tread or video or whatever that tells me a) where it says HoO people can't eat chocolate, and b) where we find out that creepy carl eats chocolate.

thanks

i feel so out of the loop.
(sad faces)

GenocideInMyMind · Post by **GenocideInMyMind** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:25 pm

Actually; it was in the recent Nikki B video. (About the chocolate)
Here is the youtube url:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v8vl6DN9yns

Rockefeller · Post by **Rockefeller** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:01 pm

Carl...hmmm the groundskeeper at Bushwood. Certainly a suspect in many, many things. However his dislike for moles, gohpers and other subterranean varments is rather well documented.

He is the sort of faithful 3rd man whose loyalty is based on his admiration of his betters' financial and social standing. A man with respect for thoise of a better class.

Carl? I think not. Perhaps. I suppose. It has hhappened before. I twould be a bitter disappointment for gentlemen everywhere.

Oh and by the way..Mikki B. a woman of poor breeding to be sure. Taking her random thoughts to the streets and exposing otherwise very private people to her ambush syle of something akin to journalism but definately not journalism as i have known it.

consideration · Post by **consideration** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:22 pm

Rockefeller wrote:Carl...hmmm the groundskeeper at Bushwood. Certainly a suspect in many, many things. However his dislike for moles, gohpers and other subterranean varments is rather well documented.

He is the sort of faithful 3rd man whose loyalty is based on his admiration of his betters' financial and social standing. A man with respect for thoise of a better class.

Carl? I think not. Perhaps. I suppose. It has hhappened before. I twould be a bitter disappointment for gentlemen everywhere.

Oh and by the way..Mikki B. a woman of poor breeding to be sure. Taking her random thoughts to the streets and exposing otherwise very private people to her ambush syle of something akin to journalism but definately not journalism as i have known it.

Someone has been taking lessons from Gemma Crowley and her lot.

jdolorous · Post by **jdolorous** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:40 am

consideration wrote:
Rockefeller wrote:Carl...hmmm the groundskeeper at Bushwood. Certainly a suspect in many, many things. However his dislike for moles, gohpers and other subterranean varments is rather well documented.

He is the sort of faithful 3rd man whose loyalty is based on his admiration of his betters' financial and social standing. A man with respect for thoise of a better class.

Carl? I think not. Perhaps. I suppose. It has hhappened before. I twould be a bitter disappointment for gentlemen everywhere.

Oh and by the way..Mikki B. a woman of poor breeding to be sure. Taking her random thoughts to the streets and exposing otherwise very private people to her ambush syle of something akin to journalism but definately not journalism as i have known it.
Someone has been taking lessons from Gemma Crowley and her lot.

Agreed maybe this independent charlton will be recruited by the sadly dwindling bunch.