0064-What Makes Us Sad?(11/1/06)

islandlove · Post by **islandlove** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:53 am

it looks like a bottle of water and a bottle of those damn vitamins shes taking

milowent · Post by **milowent** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:24 am

i liked this video a lot.

i have to say, the parents looking "sad" is a very telling reaction. Parents get angry when something happens to their kids that they want to fix - they are protective. But parents look sad when they find out their child has a terrible disease, or something like that. If Bree's parents are sad, instead of just riled up, things are not well.

ohhhmyyygoddd · Post by **ohhhmyyygoddd** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:31 am

looks like a bottle of vitamins..or health suppliments and a smaller bottle of water

house · Post by **house** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:36 am

milowent wrote:i liked this video a lot.

i have to say, the parents looking "sad" is a very telling reaction. Parents get angry when something happens to their kids that they want to fix - they are protective. But parents look sad when they find out their child has a terrible disease, or something like that. If Bree's parents are sad, instead of just riled up, things are not well.

I agree. However, I think their sadness might go deeper than them just being worried for Bree. If they were afraid for her well-being, then I would imagine they would be angry (mama/papa bear). If they had any ability to change the situation, they'd be angry and change it. Sadness implies that they feel hopeless OR that they found out something about their church that they didn't expect. Sadness usually comes from disappointment, not fear. It could be something as simple as them finding out that the free will doctrine doesn't really apply to all members (especially those that have been chosen). It might be that the deacons feel that once Bree agreed to take part, she abdicated her free will and they expect her to go on as planned. Or, it could be that the deacons talked them into feeling like Bree was a disappointment and hadn't passed some "test" of dedication. Kind of like a parent finding out that their kid doesn't want to be confirmed or get married in a particular religion. KWIM? Of course, then there's the unlikely alternative that they're sad because they realize that, if they are to free Bree from this obligation, they may have to go into hiding and upheave everyone to protect her.

cassieisabeyotch · Post by **cassieisabeyotch** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:05 am

The Creators know we look over there to see what changes, so they probably put the pill bottle there to show that she's back to taking her iron pills. The water bottle is there in case we can't tell that the pill bottle is a pill bottle, the two next to each other would be easier to figure out (Bree takes pill, Bree drinks water to swallow pill..).

She also says: "The reason that we get sad, the reason that its so painful, is so that we'll change things to make us happy again."

This, in my opinion, shows us that Bree is considering doing the ceremony anyway. Perhaps seeing her parents sad, which is NEVER a good sign, has made her want to get rid of the problem altogether by just doing the ceremony.

Is it just me, or is it very vague at the end who or what she is talking about when she says "I'm gonna try again." Even...ominous?

Temposs · Post by **Temposs** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:19 am

cassieisabeyotch wrote:Is it just me, or is it very vague at the end who or what she is talking about when she says "I'm gonna try again." Even...ominous?

It doesn't seem too ominous to me. She was just explaining right before that how her parents are sad and haven't told her what's going on yet. When she says "I'm gonna try again" it means that she's going to go try and get her parents to tell her what the deacons said and thus why they are sad. The first time she tried they wouldn't tell her, thus the reason she has to "try again".

cassieisabeyotch · Post by **cassieisabeyotch** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:26 am

Temposs wrote:
cassieisabeyotch wrote:Is it just me, or is it very vague at the end who or what she is talking about when she says "I'm gonna try again." Even...ominous?
It doesn't seem too ominous to me. She was just explaining right before that how her parents are sad and haven't told her what's going on yet. When she says "I'm gonna try again" it means that she's going to go try and get her parents to tell her what the deacons said and thus why they are sad. The first time she tried they wouldn't tell her, thus the reason she has to "try again".

I was actually kidding about the ominous part, but I didn't think it was obvious that she meant trying to get her parents to tell her what happened. While I'm sure you're right, and that is what her intentions to "try again" were about, I think it wasn't completely clear. Someone else on the forum thought it indicated that she was going to try to speak to the Deacons again. Food for thought, thats all.

Beautiful Nightmare · Post by **Beautiful Nightmare** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:32 am

Sure, except she's not the one who spoke to the deacons the first time, so why would she be trying "again"?

I think it was fairly clear that she was going to go try to get her parents to tell her what happened with the deacons again.

storyteller · Post by **storyteller** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:33 am

creativebarbie wrote:sometimes i wonder if we over anaylze everything .then the smalest thing can be the difference right! So who knows it could be the key or t they just liked the so
song.

True- oh SO true- but don't think the creators wouldn't notice that everytime something changes on the stupid bookshelf we all analyze it and blow up the image and make strange incoherant guesses about why- at this point I think they have to be aware that we'll be looking.

Then again, maybe they're yanking our chains.

PushedButton · Post by **PushedButton** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:50 am

Here's a link to the sped up bit slowed down again.....thats the good news..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YOHo-QIEx8

the bad news is the sound quaility is crap and I cant quite figure out what she's saying...

To Aperon Zoe · Post by **To Aperon Zoe** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:41 am

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:43 am

To Aperon Zoe · Post by **To Aperon Zoe** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:04 am

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:10 am

I'm at a sound studio right now with a buddy of mine.

we've decided to see if we can clean up te audio...
or at least figure out a transcript of what she is saying...

I'll update once we think we're done

ps...might take a while, we have the kids with us..and they are running around the studio...i really think they are trying to break the equipment

EDIT (X2):
We are asumming that the microphone is a shitty microphone that they are using...
or maybe we have shitty equipment.
There is a wierd background sound that is imbedded into the voice, meaning the pitch of her voice is really similar to the background noise.
Now is sincerly doubt that this was done on purpose...but who knows.
We've been trying only for a couple of minutes, but we've picked up a bit of what she's saying while testing out different theories on how to clean upthe track. ALthough, by the sounds of it, with our programs and equipment, it jsut isn't happening.
Here's what we've picked up so far...work with it if you want...fix it if you want. these are just simple guesses on what she is saying.

"and you know what,
i really think that its like, it's like
if you came into a...

and you were the only one happy
and you are all like OOOO
...and then somebody else is all like grrrrr

and they came ... were like grr

"....and so happy and sad are fighting each other then eventually

"but...that"
ooooooo...
people are just being mean ot me so i think, i think..."

...positive energy....
"not all the time, but most of the time"

"push each other away..."

hopeless
i really think that is what happens because
what else is going to happen, you know?"

storyteller · Post by **storyteller** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:35 am

oh- that sounds sad- like she's talking about how people were treating her badly when she was in school, or something.

Lonelygirl15

0064-What Makes Us Sad?(11/1/06)

The Fast bit