0087 "Jonas?" [11/30/06]

watchingall · Post by **watchingall** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:01 pm

thejyav wrote:BTW keep in mind 12/10 is right around the corner

weee! I brought that up in the dates section and never saw any response or that anyone thought it was anything. so i gave up :p

raindown · Post by **raindown** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:06 pm

I have to say:

What a sweetheart.
I love this video.

jc_gypsy7 · Post by **jc_gypsy7** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:12 pm

Personally, I think both Daniel AND Yousef need a standing ovation for this vid!

Daniel: it's about time !! Regardless of whether Bree is just this side of loony or if she's using the animals as a crutch but is basically of sound mind... either way, you've seen doing what you're doing just ISN'T working!

Go home and deal with them!

Yousef: GREAT ACTING JOB! I'm SOO glad the Creators finally gave you something you could sink your teeth into - you were so totally believable, I'm totally impressed!

watchingall · Post by **watchingall** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:13 pm

First of all, THANK YOU Creators for listening to us and giving us more insight to Daniel!

This was a fantastic video. I don't think Ive ever seen Daniel more realistic and likable.

"she used to be smart" really stuck out at me. Is something (the shots? hypnotism?) making her not as smart or more kinda out of it? *oooh Ziola, I like your idea that the shots or the pills were her... anti-depressants of a sort! But werent they just recent in reference to the ceremony? If shes always been odd she would have been on pills and shots long before now.

Did he say rat? I have sound turned way down, I thought he said something about that "brat" in reference to Bree. That made my eyes widen I can tell you! If it was rat I think he used that term just to show his absolute disgust.

I think he's being followed. If they aren't following both of them they are following Daniel. Will he be safe going home?!

I think Jonas is adorable but I DO NOT trust him. One part of me (the tough mommy part) wants me to tell Daniel to leave and force Bree to grow up. Another part (the overly protective mommy part) freaks out even with the thought of Bree being alone.

SHe did seem a lot more together and smarter in the first videos. Whats going on Bree?!

omegawoman: "Also, I still keep going back to when Lucy told Bree it was ok to talk to her stuffed animals. There has to be something there. Whether it is a bug, a tracking device or something else. There is a reason a grown woman told a then 16 year old girl that it was perfectly fine to carry on conversations with hand puppets."

I totally forgot about this, excellent point! excellent memory!

twinklyci brings up a good point, IF her parents are ok and alive... they must be terrified! I have a panic attack if my kids are sick or hurt or even missing in the store for 5 mins. I said this before too cause I really think if they had any way to get in touch with Bree they would have. Have they and Bree just hasnt told us?

And the "watcher" also looks like a man in a windbreaker and shorts to me. Thats pretty common attire around these parts.

milowent: ROFL! Gemma probably will!

weee wow Im sorry this went on so long, thats just my collected thoughts on the video and the 9 pages in this thread so far

I figured that was easier than 10 posts in a row from me

Now im going to rewatch it because while i dont think the man shown earlier in the thread is a watcher, i thought i did catch something! and was there another star filter in use?

rodrigogar · Post by **rodrigogar** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:13 pm

i just got to say: AWESOME VIDEO! and am 110% on daniel's side. They guy gave everything up for bree and she is so into her own world. she never ever said thanks to daniel or sorry i got you into this or sorry didnt believe you before. I would feel the same if i am leaving everyhting for someone and then they just sell out to someone new they dont even know just like that.

I dunno if i trust jonas or not, but bree should stay with daniel. Daniel should tell bree how things are, what he is missing out because of her and demand her to tell him whats up with the order and the ceremony.

Like a few have mentioned: have they tried to call the house to see if someone picks up, even a watcher?

I would figur a way to leave a message for the watchers/order somehow, a note with an email address or something asking WTF DO U GUYS WANT.

Finally, i think daniel will leave bree, to realize he is still being followed, only to return to jonas house and then we will know what is up with him.

Now with that said. let all follow the great cabbage head

edit: the cancer, owen and thor are wired

thejyav · Post by **thejyav** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:16 pm

watchingall wrote:
thejyav wrote:BTW keep in mind 12/10 is right around the corner

weee! I brought that up in the dates section and never saw any response or that anyone thought it was anything. so i gave up :p

never give up ::thumbs up::

raindown · Post by **raindown** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:17 pm

silvermoon wrote:
ElectricEye wrote: And why the hell is Bree so anxious to trust Jonas if she wont even trust/talk to Daniel? It doesnt make much sense...
I hate to say it, but she probably trusts him because she thinks he's hot.

I read a thing a while back that shows that women are more likely to trust and even go off with a man she's never met before if she thinks he's handsome and charming.

That is why classically handsome serial killers are so successful.

Creepy, shallow, and true.

It sounds stupid, but it's probably true.
I too read an article of this sort, something about everyone thinking that better looking people are nicer and smarter.

watchingall · Post by **watchingall** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:18 pm

UGH! I dont have time or knowlege to slow down or screencap but... does anyone else see SOMETHING behind Bree? near the end of when she is being shown. Have to pick up my kid from school and leave the sluething to someone else soon!

ElectricEye · Post by **ElectricEye** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:29 pm

watchingall wrote:oooh Ziola, I like your idea that the shots or the pills were her... anti-depressants of a sort! But werent they just recent in reference to the ceremony? If shes always been odd she would have been on pills and shots long before now.

I dont like to get much into how, but I know quite a bit about anti depresants and mental health in general(As one could sorta tell cause I brought up psychosis lol), so I have a bit on insight on this stuff. The shots...probably not. Never heard or seen anything where any kind of antidepressant or psychological drug in injected. The pills....could be. But she really did not seem like she was on anything if she was...but that could be an acting thing. I have to agree with you, doesnt seem plausible. Generally, these "religions" tend to be against pills anyway. Vitamin supplements of things they aprove of are quite common though. And being removed from those suddenly could produce the effect that we are seeing now.

turkeyfeather · Post by **turkeyfeather** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:30 pm

I am afraid if Daniel leaves her she will have a total meltdown and might start sucking her thumb! Jonas will probably do nothing to help her phyco behavior and as someone said before, they will probably be rolling in the grass to the Beach Boys with all of the animals. Daniel is the only "reality" she has and if she is going to come out of this funk, he is the only one who can help.

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:35 pm

Falls wrote:
Kasdeja wrote:
Luv2Skydive wrote:
Kasdeja wrote:
Luv2Skydive wrote:Seriously, Daniel needs to drive Bree and her purple-conjoined-twin-that-never-fully-developed appendage off at Jonas' house. Don't even stop, just slow down, open the door, and shove her A** out.

LOVING your avatar! I imitate Stuart (and his mother) perfectly!

*Hey, look what I can do!*
Love your avatar, too!
I agree, Mad TV is great.

"STUUUAART!?!?!?!"

On topic: Daniel > Jonass.

Jonas is cute but I'm not into pretty boys myself so I still prefer Daniel but I have to say I like him less the longer he's around Bree. She sucks the life right out of him. I think she and Jonas should get married and have little delusional purple sailor monkeys.

watchingall · Post by **watchingall** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:40 pm

ElectricEye wrote:
watchingall wrote:oooh Ziola, I like your idea that the shots or the pills were her... anti-depressants of a sort! But werent they just recent in reference to the ceremony? If shes always been odd she would have been on pills and shots long before now.
I dont like to get much into how, but I know quite a bit about anti depresants and mental health in general(As one could sorta tell cause I brought up psychosis lol), so I have a bit on insight on this stuff. The shots...probably not. Never heard or seen anything where any kind of antidepressant or psychological drug in injected. The pills....could be. But she really did not seem like she was on anything if she was...but that could be an acting thing. I have to agree with you, doesnt seem plausible. Generally, these "religions" tend to be against pills anyway. Vitamin supplements of things they aprove of are quite common though. And being removed from those suddenly could produce the effect that we are seeing now.

Eh, Ill get into it. Im on anti-depressants and yes they are pills. And I do take them at night because they make me a little sleepy. Didnt Bree take her "iron pills" at like 10pm? Course if I remember correctly they were a lot bigger than any anti-depressant ive ever seen.

Also I believe she is acting strangely because shes in withdrawl of whatever those shots/pills are. Not to mention her kidnapped parents and living out of motels.

The shots and the pills were to prepare for the ceremony so they almost certainly had to have been because of her "religion". Do you think they were making her take vitamins? (that might sound sarcastic, i dont mean it to)

anyways now i definitely have to run!

raindown · Post by **raindown** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:41 pm

milowent wrote:
thejyav wrote:
Smelltheflowers wrote:The image is far too small to even make out whether or not he's wearing a suit. He could just as easily be wearing dark jeans and a leather jacket.

He bends over and picks something up twice in the video, and I agree, it also looks later on as if he's interacting with a child or another person in the background.
i dont know..on one hand he is very small and hard to distingish...on the other hand he is in that corner of the screen for a lot of the video so..its intresting
well, when gemma watches this one, she'll probably notice he has a watcher symbol on his hand again.

lol.

I want her to start noticing their faces.
And find out that The Watcher's actually... Macaulay Culkin.

word.

ElectricEye · Post by **ElectricEye** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:43 pm

I'll agree with you on the withdrawal thing, but I just dont think, from my experience, it seems like anti depressants. And vitamins was the wrong word I suppose. But all of them have their kooky ideas about stuff to give people.

Maccaboy17 · Post by **Maccaboy17** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:48 pm

I feel so vindicated! just like i predicted, a Daniel rant video

ok so it didnt end in the 'its worth it for her' i predicted but the 'how can i help her if she wont listen' pretty much says the same, he's sick of it all but he does actually clearly still care about bree and would rather have his old friend back

like most of you i dont think he will leave proberly (again like most of you i would be imensly upset at the loss of the best character) and might very well leave and come back when he realises he is still being pursued this ties in with my biblical theory daniel is being thrown to the lions and jonas i launching his conversion of bree, lets hope daniel comes back and trows jonas into the sea so he gets eaten

regardless of theories Save Our Beast
yes thats right i'm an SOB!