Learning To Drive [9/20/06]

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:48 pm

Nope!

sinspromise · Post by **sinspromise** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:52 pm

I'm hearing, "They're not Order of (insert word that sounds like gecko), okay".

Woo · Post by **Woo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:52 pm

Jana4 wrote:The closest I can get is hearing "Pluthero". But all I can see from the results when I look it up on google is that it may have something to do with her play.

yes im thinking it's more of a "-thro" sound on the end, but her accent throws me off!

lonewolfbo · Post by **lonewolfbo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:55 pm

this seems to be the closest thing I can find (and someone above has already mentioned it (Ordo Templi Orientis)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Templi_Orientis

It has varying levels of membership like the 33 degrees of masonry with a lot of rituals. Maybe that is the secret ceremony her parents don't know about? A special level?

JacksAndDouches · Post by **JacksAndDouches** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:57 pm

the order of gecko is open and tolerant...so her religion is not open...makes sense, its secretive and they do theyre own thing, hence why he doesn't understand holla

BadState · Post by **BadState** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:00 pm

I'm not sure it even ends with an "o" sound. That might be bleeding off of the trailing "okay". I hear something like "order of jenda, okay".

JacksAndDouches · Post by **JacksAndDouches** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:08 pm

BadState wrote:I'm not sure it even ends with an "o" sound. That might be bleeding off of the trailing "okay". I hear something like "order of jenda, okay".

yes but she clearly says "they are not.."

so even if you discover what she says, all your doing is eliminating one religion

and as we know from one of lonelygirls previous videos, "there are like a million f****ing religions in the world"

twomeanings · Post by **twomeanings** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:08 pm

Here's the fight at the end, transcribed for those who can't see the video, and for others to analyze, since it all happens pretty fast, and it's easy to miss bits and pieces of dialogue.

Daniel: Why won't you even talk to me about it?

Bree: Because you don't understand.

Daniel: What's there to understand? You don't even know what you're doing.

Bree: Yes I do!

Daniel: What are you talking about? If I was you and I was working as hard as you are right now, I'd wanna know what it was all for.

Bree: I do! It's a huge honour for me - okay, whatever! It's... ???

Daniel: What are you, what are you talking about? Don't you think it's weird that they're not even telling you about this whole thing?

Bree: NO! I don't think it's weird! They don't know, okay?

Daniel: What...

Bree: They're...

Daniel: What'd you mean...

Bree: They're not...

Daniel: What are you ta - what do you mean they don't ???

Bree: ...order of ???, okay?

Daniel: Order of what? ...what?

Bree: I just wanna go... just take me home.

Daniel: Just come back... come back here!

Blackburne · Post by **Blackburne** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:08 pm

I've been suspicious for a while now that perhaps Bree's parents were also unaware of what might happen to her in the ceremony but I hadn't seen it mentioned elsewhere. This video cements what I'd thought all along. Bree's parents don't know the potential danger their daughter is facing.

This also makes me suspicious of Cassie since she's been sending out messages to everyone who has messaged her, telling them to wait. Was it that she knew this video was on the horizon and is now setting up her own drop? I think Cassie definitely has some connection with the creators.

Bree looks different in this video. Her top bares much more skin and is it just me or can you see tanlines on her arms? Also I think she's wearing more makeup.

Post by **Broken Kid** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:10 pm

JacksAndDouches wrote:the order of gecko is open and tolerant...so her religion is not open...makes sense, its secretive and they do theyre own thing, hence why he doesn't understand holla

The order of the gecko website doesn't seem to be a religion but rather a discussion of religion. I was intrigued about their "university" section, which says there's a lot of homework.

But the point is, the reason Bree's parents don't know about the ceremony is that they're not the order of whatever, which infers that that order is a part of their religion... This would make OTO confusing...since it doesn't seem to be any secret part of Thelema but rather a thelemic faith of its own...

I'm just running in circles...

Post by **Broken Kid** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:12 pm

Blackburne wrote:Bree looks different in this video. Her top bares much more skin and is it just me or can you see tanlines on her arms? Also I think she's wearing more makeup.

I thought the same thing. She looks much more like Jessica (make up and older) than the old bedroom Bree...

JacksAndDouches · Post by **JacksAndDouches** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:15 pm

Broken Kid wrote:
JacksAndDouches wrote:the order of gecko is open and tolerant...so her religion is not open...makes sense, its secretive and they do theyre own thing, hence why he doesn't understand holla
The order of the gecko website doesn't seem to be a religion but rather a discussion of religion. I was intrigued about their "university" section, which says there's a lot of homework.

But the point is, the reason Bree's parents don't know about the ceremony is that they're not the order of whatever, which infers that that order is a part of their religion... This would make OTO confusing...since it doesn't seem to be any secret part of Thelema but rather a thelemic faith of its own...

I'm just running in circles...

I interpeted it as the religion is not order of so and so...

I suppose you could take that statement either way

However you're theory makes more sense to me now.

I also want to remind everyone that not every cult/religion has a freakin website. I am willing to bet there are plenty of sects that use Crowley that won't be found on wikipedia!

darkscarlett · Post by **darkscarlett** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:17 pm

Broken Kid wrote:
Blackburne wrote:Bree looks different in this video. Her top bares much more skin and is it just me or can you see tanlines on her arms? Also I think she's wearing more makeup.
I thought the same thing. She looks much more like Jessica (make up and older) than the old bedroom Bree...

I was wondering if it could just be that when she gets out of the house she likes to dress up with makeup and more mature clothes. But while home for her parents she needs to maintain the cutesy innocent girl look.

curriguy · Post by **curriguy** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:23 pm

When Bree says "They're not Order of _________"

she is saying it to EXPLAIN why her parents don't know what the ceremony is about.

The "Order of __________" sound to me like they are a HIGHER subset of her religion, who would probably know what the ceremony entails.

If we can determine what Order she is talking about, we can probably definitively know what religion she is a part of, and probably narrow down the ceremonies to a select few

Woo · Post by **Woo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:24 pm

curriguy wrote:When Bree says "They're not Order of _________"

she is saying it to EXPLAIN why her parents don't know what the ceremony is about.

The "Order of __________" sound to me like they are a HIGHER subset of her religion, who would probably know what the ceremony entails.

If we can determine what Order she is talking about, we can probably definitively know what religion she is a part of, and probably narrow down the ceremonies to a select few

Yes I agree with you

OR

Daniel thinks her family are in the "Order of ________" when infact they have been lying and they are actually part of another group

Although the former makes more sense