Do we trust Jonas?

[milowent]

i voted "no" we can't trust him, but they should go see jonas anyway. i give up! just seeing an lg15 scene with 3 actors in it is reason enough at this point.

[immortal1]

I think this might surprise a couple of people but I said YES.

We all know that sooner or later B&D will have to face the Order. It's a question of when. If Jonas is on the up and up The Order will still eventually find Jonas's house but if they go back to Bree's house it all goes down then.

If Jonas is somehow mixed up in the Order, it's up to Daniel to find out and protect her.

So I'd say this to Daniel, go ahead with this but be cautious. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

[glowe126]

Yes, because you used to live in Jonas' bed, and you are still alive. Blow him a kiss for me.

Or are you at the edge of your credit limit now because you paid for y'all's vacation to Jamaica and he never paid you back... Hmmm..

I still say YES!!!!

[shifty]

I voted no.

I think they should go home; its the only place that they know is safe. How could you trust some random person on Youtube that you don't know? And who gives a house tour by showing a hall and 3 doors?

Go home Bree/Daniel!

[dreamerose]

Yes, trust him enough to go there because:

1. We know home is not safe, because their homes are under surveilance so that the people will know if/when they return.

2. We know the street/warehouse is not safe... and I shouldn't have to explain why not!

3. We know Bree will not go to the authorities or for help of any kind, because SHE believes it to be not safe, regardless of what we think.

When all your alternatives are suspect, it's wisest to take the course most likely to be safe... and in this case, that is meeting with Jonas.

We have no proof that Jonas is untrustworthy, though we DO have proof that #'s 1 and 2 are a bad idea, and that #3 is not an option Bree is willing to consider. Also, Bree has made it clear that she does not consider going home to be safe. If we continue to harp on that despite her making her feeling blatently clear, chances are, she's going to stop trusting our judgement... and we don't want that.

If Bree and Daniel are concerned about it, that are numerous ways for them to reduce the risk:
1. Stay together at all times and insist on sleeping in the same room.
2. Have Jonas get them cell phones.
3. Ask Jonas to provide them some cash--- and then keep it on themselves at all times.
4. Make sure they know where they are, and how to get to the nearest towns, in case they have to leave in a hurry.
5. Each have their own house keys and vehicle keys... hey, Jonas is rich, remember? This isn't a big stretch--- not at all.
6.Toss the darn animals in the wash at a laundrymat beforehand--- it won't hurt them--- just get rid of any bugs--- and they need a bath anyways, after weeks on the road.

See? There are lots of ways to attempt to mitigate the risk at Jonas'--- but almost none if they go home, where someone else is blatently in full control.

And if they really want to know if their parents are home? Stop at a random payphone somewhere and call.

[amagg]

They have nothing to gain by continuing like this. If Jonas is an ally, then they'll be in a great position, and if he is an enemy, they possibly have the opportunity to learn something about the Order.

Daniel and Bree: Above all DO NOT TRUST Jonas. But just as importantly, let him think that you do trust him. As an enemy, he may have valuable information, and he may still provide you with resources while trying to earn your trust. There's a great post in the Beast chat titled 'Exodus' that you should both read carefully. Several times.

[sphinx]

I voted YES.

Daniel has already trusted Tachyon.

In her latest correspondence to her partner, who she has asked to pass messages onto Daniel (posted on the OpAphid forum here http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewt ... 74&start=0 ), the following warning was with all of Gemma's vids:

GLAD YOU FINALLY UNDERSTOOD MY MESSAGE.
DON'T FOLLOW UP A SMART MOVE WITH A STUPID ONE...
AND WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T GO HOME.

Glad Daniel finally understood about the GPS on the car.
Don't follow up ditching the car and losing the Watcher with the wrong choice of trusting Gemma.

And no, they can't go home.

Edit: Added the url.

[Churistine]

i vote yes- they shouldn't be living like that when there is an available resource.. Jonas is really they're only option at the moment.

[Pylopheit]

I say yes. Just the same as I said in the chat, I can't see how the plot is going to get interesting again without it, and I always was a callous child...I really just want to see what happens. Oh and, you know, the streets aren't safe, OpAphid has cameras in their house...blah blah blah, lesser of two evils (or weevils) yeah?

[TwoBelow]

I voted no, only because I haven't liked Jonas from the start. He's creepy, and loneliness has made him seem desperate and too eager to have friends. I'm also scared that Bree will take too much of a liking to him.

It looks like they'll probably go anyway, the way the vote is going, so here's my prediction: Bree and Jonas hit it off, Daniel, of course, hates Jonas, and they end up fighting over Bree. In the end, Daniel has to leave. But does Bree go with him? We'll have to see.

But I still hope they don't go.

[pariah164]

Yes. GO TO JONAS. Your homes are bugged. They will capture and kill you if you go back!

[angie78gg]

I say trust Jonas! Only because Gemma"little miss go home and get caught" has no brain. I think maybe she is pulling for the order and maybe JOnas isnt. I guess we shall see, hopefully no one dies at Jonas' homestead. That would really make for a bad week.

[iamcool]

YES!

looks like they are going to jonas'

[GoodGollyItsHolly]

It seems like the most obvious choice doesnt it?! I'm not sold yet, but you guys make very good points.

Time to sleep

[iamcool]

It seems like the most obvious choice doesnt it?! I'm not sold yet, but you guys make very good points.

Time to sleep

u havnt slept? get some rest dear!