Do we trust Jonas?

GatorMeegs · Post by **GatorMeegs** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:37 am

Yes...off to the house of Jonas they go! (for reasons everyone have already explained so well!)

And I am suprised by Oppies voting No! By Op posting "Home Alone", it felt like she was trying to push B&D in another direction, by letting us know that they can't go home. (of course, I may be missing another piece of Op info as I am still catching up over there)

Go Holly, Go Holly, Go!

Sadie · Post by **Sadie** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:49 am

Don't trust Jonas completely, but Bree and Danielbeast should GO ALREADY! Danielbeast will protect Bree!

graceness · Post by **graceness** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:50 am

I gave my reason in a pm, but basically - he's the lesser of evils a this point. Their choices are very limited and living on the street is no way to go - if anything such a desperate situation could lead to desperate measures - such as inviting the order to capture them just to get it over with.

There's no harm in meeting somewhere "neutral".

Dream · Post by **Dream** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:52 am

Trust or no trust, since Bree mentioned already that the Order is everywhere, staying with Jonas seems as good a choice as any other. Probably more comfortable beds than at the warehouse, too. And at least a chance that he's not under OpAphid's surveillance.

Beautiful Nightmare · Post by **Beautiful Nightmare** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:55 am

Yeah, I voted to go to Jonas. I don't know that they can trust him completely, but I do know that their houses are being watched.

Holly, since you're talking to Daniel, you should tell him to start watching OpAphid vids. :lol

exastra · Post by **exastra** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:55 am

If their goal is to evade The Order, then they should stay with Jonas and be prepared to indefinitely give up the lifestyle they knew--- including their parents. Does Jonas have the resources to solve their problem or merely escape it? Even if they go home to either negotiate or fight with The Order, they may get their parents back, but things will never be exactly "normal" again.
If they go to Jonas, they'd still be on the run, just more comfortably.
I want what Bree and Daniel want for themselves. What do they really hope to gain? Like Vigilo said, the choice really is theirs.

surrealisticpill · Post by **surrealisticpill** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:16 am

THEY SHOULD NOT TRUST JONAS! He is too suspicious. What exactly is behind those closed doors? Why didn't he show us the insides of the rooms? It's because he has hacked up dead bodies in there. Instruments of torture. Gemma has been a friend to Bree longer than Jonas. Gemma used to be in the order and she is older and wiser. Bree and Daniel should take her advice and GO HOME!

milowent · Post by **milowent** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:18 am

the chat last night seemed to favor jonas, IMHO. i mean, between dumpster diving and jonas, what can they do?

partial chat log posted here: http://milowent.blogspot.com/2006/12/of ... aniel.html

veela-valoom · Post by **veela-valoom** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:24 am

I tend to trust Jonas at this point mainly becuase I don't trust Gemma AT ALL. She's behaving rather suspiciously and she's trying to push them away from Jonas and back towards home. Thus if we believe Gemma has been swayed by the order then we must believe that the only option is Jonas since Gemma seems vehemently opposed to it.

Gemma saying "Don't trust anyone" reminds me somewaht of Jack and Juliet on Lost. When she plays the video that says "Ignore everything I say" but keeps on talking.

We have no reason not to trust Jonas aside from the fact they "met" on the internet. We have loads of reasons not to trust Gemma.

Cassi

Post by **wintermute** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:43 am

surrealisticpill wrote:THEY SHOULD NOT TRUST JONAS!

I don't trust Jonas either, but I agree that staying with him is better than the alternative of staying on the streets. Going home seems foolish at this point. They might as well just let themselves get caught instead. No... I say go with Jonas, but they shouldn't suspend their distrust and always keep a way of escape in mind. But they should act towards him as if they trust him completely. If he *is* the enemy, they may gain information. If not, then they've lost nothing.

'mute

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:47 am

Don't Trust Jonas.

He looks way to nervous in every video.

He has only shown us his hallway...no actual rooms. Anything could be behind those doors!

No proof to his background.

He keeps looking away in his videos, obviously lying...

You should never trust someone that keeps asking you to trust them. Why would he care so much?

What are his motives?

I say go home....take the chance. Its the right thing to do. Stop running.

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:53 am

More reason not to trust Jonas..I'm surprised no one else got this:

Luminous wrote this in another forum section:

Jonastko - "TKO" = "Technical Knock Out" - a boxing term.
Tachyons last vid - "Knock 'Em Down" - Isn't that what a boxer does?
mskelly's videos for HSA online - some of them are founded by the "TIKO" foundation. Remove the "I" (self) and you get TKO.
Might Jonas' last name be TIKO?
Is it possible he has removed his "self" and become JonasTKO?
There are many more correspondances that point to this that I am not listing in this post.

Has anyone else noticed this? If so, please post what you have found.

Do you think it means anything?

Yoga Bear · Post by **Yoga Bear** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:13 am

YES!!

If the order wanted to grab them they could have by now. Eating trash is worse for them at this point.

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:15 am

Yoga Bear wrote:YES!!

If the order wanted to grab them they could have by now. Eating trash is worse for them at this point.

Definately. Thats what I've been saying. We need to decide because they can't keep living off the streets.

For the sake of the storyline, I say they could go to Jonas' house..but for their safetys sake, I say go home.

ericski · Post by **ericski** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:22 am

it's all about free will. when there seems like there is no alternative, accept giving up your free will for safety and security.
try accepting all this from jonas and remaining free to choose. i don't think so. everything has a price.
i've seen a lot of posts saying, "he's rich, go there!".
yeah. i don't dislike jonas because he's rich, but because he seems untrustworthy. accept gifts from someone you don't know, an obligation is put in place that grows as the amount of value in the gifts grow.
what has been given up in the name of security?

Lonelygirl15

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