[PUZZLE][SOLVED] 12-10-06 Movie Night

[windsong]

I think breakfast club probably refers to n: He is such a badass. His voice naturally has that sonic echo underneath it when he yells. It just takes a lot out of him.

There is a scene where the rebel guy shatters the glass in the door by screaming. What do you think?

Edit: not rebel guy, but emilio's jock character

[Sad Panda]

SCENE FOUND: FIGHT CLUB
A few things:

First of all, Edward Norton's character doesn't have a name. So I'm referring to him as Norton in this transcript.

Secondly, if you haven't seen this movie and don't want the movie spoiled, don't read this.

TIME CLUE CAN BE SEEN: 1:55:24

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It's not very clear if the scene we're supposed to study is before or after the numbers. I think it's after. Just in case, I'm putting both scenes in here:


Norton has just discovered that it is possible he is Tyler Durgin. He calls Marla to confirm.

Norton Voice over: Please return your seats back to their full, upright and locked position.


Norton calls Marla:

Marla: Yeah?
Norton: Marla, it's me. Have we ever done it?
Marla: Done what?
Norton: Have we ever had sex?
Marla: What kind of stupid question is that?
Norton: Is it stupid because the answer is yes or because the answer is no?
Marla: Is this a trick? Do you want to know if I thought we were just having sex or making love?
Norton: We did make love?
Marla: Is that what you're calling it?
Norton: Please Marla, just answer the question. Are we doing it or not?!

Marla: You f**k me, then snub me. You love me, you hate me. You show me a sensitive side, then you turn into a total a*****e. Is that a pretty accurate discription of our relationship, Tyler?

(Norton voiceover: "We have just lost cabin pressure".)

Norton: ...What did you just call me?
Marla: What is wrong with you?
Norton: What did you just call me? Say my name!
Marla: Tyler Durgin, Tyler Durgin, you fucking prick! What's going on? I'm coming over!
Norton: Marla, wait, I'm not there!

Tyler: You broke your promise.

(Tyler Durgin appears in a seat next to Norton)

Norton: Jesus, Tyler.
Tyler: You fucking talked to her about me!
Norton: What the f**k is going on here!
Tyler:I ask you for one thing, one simple thing.
Norton: Why do people think that I'm you? Answer me!
Tyler: Sit.
Norton: Answer me, why do people think that I'm you?
Tyler: I think you know.
Norton: No, I don't.
Tyler: Yes, you do. Why would anyone possibly confuse you for me?
Norton: I ... I don't know.

(Norton has a flashback of him doing actions that we previously saw Brad Pitt do in the movie in scenes before)

Tyler: You got it.
Norton: No ...
(Norton has another flash back ... this time he is saying "Do not f**k with us!" to the waiter they beat up in a scene prior.)

Tyler: Say it!
Norton: Because ...

(Flashback to the burn scene -- Edward Norton is buring his own hand this time.)

Tyler: Say it!
Norton: Because we're the same person.
Tyler: That's right.

(More flashbacks -- Norton saying "We are the all singing, all dancing ...")

Norton: I don't understand this.

Tyler: You were looking for a way to change your life. You could not do this on your own. All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you want to look, I f**k like you want to f**k. I am smart, capable and most importantly I am free in all the ways you are not.

(More flashbacks, this time of Norton telling Marla "Tyler isn't here, Tyler went away. Tyler's gone." Marla says "What?!")

Norton: This is impossible.This is crazy.

Tyler: No, people do it every day. They talk to themselves. They see themselves as they like to be. They don't have the courage you do to just run with it.

(A flashback to the first fight scene in the parking lot -- Norton is fighting himself.)

Tyler: Naturally, you're still wrestling with it so sometimes you're still you.

(Flashback to the night Tyler and Norton met -- Norton is talking to himself: "We should do this again sometime.")

Tyler: Other times, you imagine yourself watching me.

(Flashback: Norton saying "If this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.")

Tyler: Little by little, you just letting yourself become ... Tyler Durgin.

(Flashback: Norton setting fire to the building in the prior scene "You are not your job!")

Norton: No, you have a house.
Tyler: It's in your name.
Norton: You have a job! You have a whole life!
Tyler: You have nine jobs because you can't sleep. Or you stay up and make soap.
Norton: Marla, you're fucking Marla, Tyler!
Tyler: Ah, technically, your fucking Marla. But it's all the same to her.

(A flashback to Norton sleeping with Marla)

Norton: Oh my God ....
Tyler: Now you see our dilema. She knows too much. We're going to have to talk about how this might compromise our goals.

Norton: ... What are you saying? This is bullshit, I'm not listening to this! You're insane!

Tyler: No, you're insane. And we simply do not have time for this crap!

Ed Norton faints, passes out on the bed.

(Norton Voiceover: "It's called a change over. The movie goes on , and nobody in the audience has any idea.")


Norton wakes up, the phone is off the hook. As he runs through the hotel lobby, the girl at the counter stops him.

Girl: Sir, are you checking out?
Norton: Uh, Bill me.
Girl: I need you to initial this list of phone calls.

(The camera scans over the list, you can see the number from the clue.)

Norton: When were these made?
Girl: It says it right here sir, between 2-3:30 this morning.
Norton: But I didn't ... (Realization dawns on his face)

(Norton flies back to the house he shared with Tyler)

Norton: Have i been going to bed earlier every night? Have I been sleeping later? Have I been Tyler longer and longer?

(The enters the house, it's empty. All the supplies are gone as well.)

Norton: Anyone here?

Voiceover: Dejavu ... all over again.

(He looks in the basement -- The tubs of soap are empty.)

(Flashback to Tyler saying "With enough soap, we can blow up almost anything.")

Norton: Oh my God.

(Norton Starts calls the numbers on the list.)

Guy: 1888 Franklin street.
Norton: 1888 Franklin street? (Norton looks on the wall .. the address is there.)
Guy: Yes, can I help you?
Norton: Yeah, I need to talk to your supervisor right away.
Guy: Speaking.
Norton: Okay, listen to me. I think something very terrible is about to happen to your buiding --
Guy: It's under control sir.
Norton: Excuse me?
Guy: It's under control sir. You don't need to worry about us. We're solid.

(As he continues to call the numbers, he realizes Tyler Durgin is going to try and blow up all those buildings, and the peopple who work in them are all in on Project Mayhem.)

(End Scene -- Next scene is him talking to Marla)

[surrealisticpill]

nice job panda!

heathers and fight club scenes both include someone burning their own hand.

[Jem]

"I think breakfast club probably refers to n: He is such a badass. His voice naturally has that sonic echo underneath it when he yells. It just takes a lot out of him.

There is a scene where the rebel guy shatters the glass in the door by screaming. What do you think?"

Cool thought. Does someone have a DVD of this movie with the Director's commentary? Maybe during this scene the quote is in the commentary...?

[Sad Panda]

Hehe - I am just so happy I actually can contribute something here.

I knew it had to be in that movie - I thought it was on an airline ticket stubb, lol..seemed like a flight number - so I was looking very close at everything.

Yep, you got it.

I wrote out a transcript of the scene before we see the number and after we see the number in the other thread.

Next one .. Gremlins. w00t

[tiltingwindward]

Wow...I'm pretty lucky to be gone all weekend and still get a chance to volunteer for Back to the Future. I'll watch it tonight or tomorrow (depending on when I can get to the video store), and report back!

[dreamerose]

Reading through the descriptions, so far I've seen five (out of fifteen) that mention phone calls... House Party, The Game, Fight Club, Cruel Intentions, Swingers... in the referenced scene. That seems like a bit more then random.

I'm wondering if all of them will reference phone calls in some way, or most of them will, and that we're going to be looking for a phone number some where. If only most of them do, perhaps it will be 10 that lead us to a phone number.

I may be wrong, but I think the scene in Gremlins where he says "This is a cocoon, and inside he's going through changes. Lots of changes." he is either on the phone during, or just before or after saying that.

[brandoblues]

ok i just watched the breakfast club scene where emilio is dancing around in his testosterone rage, he goes into the room with the glass door, yells and the glass breaks, the sign on the door says FOREIGN LANGUAGE

scene is around 57 minutes

[enigma117]

Yeah - I saw all that info you put in there Panda - great job!!

[JuJu Bean]

I found a site that has scripts written out: www.dailyscript.com

The scene where the glass breaks:

The "geek" is smoking out with the "trouble maker" and the "jock"

The jock(I am pretty sure, but I could be wrong because the script just says Andrew (the jock) emerges from a really smokey room. He) inhales another puff and starts dancing to everybody's applause. He goes back in the room he was in. He screams and it shatters the glass door. During that time the teacher is going through confidental files of other teachers in the basement when the janitor walks in on him.

Hope this helps also in the other thread someone put LD188A with Flight Club. It was on a telephone bill handed to the guy. - great catch.

[Jem]

Cool Breakfast Club catch. Maybe part of the solution will be in a foreign language. (Familiaar is Dutch, after all). ( -:

[honeybee627]

I am kicking myself for getting rid of my VHS copy of Just One of the Guys. Yes, I owned it. I am trying to remember the "cult" related lines.

A few different times during the film, the main character (Terri)'s brother Buddy has to make up lies to Terri's boyfriend (Kevin) who doesn't know that Terri is leading a double life posing as a boy.
He also comes up with excuses whenever their mother (who is away, traveling) calls to check on them.

I can't remember if he says this to Kevin, who is getting suspicious because Terri keeps canceling their dates, or to their mother, but either way it is said in a phone conversation. Terri convinces Buddy to lie for her and so he tells Kevin (?) that Terri has joined a cult.
It is possible that he later references "those damn cults" in a subsequent conversation, but I can't quite remember.

ARGH! It's on the tip of my brain. I've tried lots of sites but I can't find the script online.

Either way, this movie involves a key brother/sister relationship (they are completely on their own while their parents are away for the entire story), and the sister character is "undercover" as the opposite sex throughout the movie.

Wish I could be more helpful!


Edited - for vagueness

[tigerlilylynn]

Cool Breakfast Club catch. Maybe part of the solution will be in a foreign language. (Familiaar is Dutch, after all). ( -:

but also an admitted typo

[cynicar]

Unfortunately, I don't have time to look into it, but I think the Breakfast Club Clue (sonic echo yelling) could also refer to the scene where Judd Nelson's character acts out his father beating him. There's a weird echo thing that's done with his voice and he stalks off at the end exhausted.

That would also match the badass reference better than the jock. (Judd plays the rebel).

Just a thought from someone who's obviously watched that movie way too much.

[Mintgurl]

Some people seem to think I am wrong on this, but I think the
"Those damn cults" quote seems to fit with this movie.
This movie is based around "cults".
An Athlete
A Princess
A Brain
A Basket Case
A Criminal

I think there is a message in all of these characters, as a whole.
You can take something from each one of them.
The Athlete feels he has to impress his parents by winning, feels like he cant let them down. He has to be the best at what he does.
The Princess, she has to live up to certain standards that her friends and family have for her. She feels pressured by her friends to do things she doesn't necessarily want to. Her parents use her to get back at eachother.
The Brain, feels like he cant fail. His parents pressure him to get straight A's. They "wont accept" a failing son.
The Basket case, reminds me so much of Tachy. She has this purse that she keeps stuff in. At one point dumps it out on the couch and when the others ask why she has so much stuff, she says "You never know when you may have to jam" and her home life is "unsatisfying". Her parents just ignore her.
The Criminal, he also has a rough home life. His parents dont really care about him. Put a burn in his arm after he spilled paint in the garage. Gave him a carton of cigarettes for Xmas. He rebels against
everyone. He is kind of his own person.
I think this movie is sending a message about their different "cults"
and their "Home Lives".
This seems to apply to Tach...her "home"was unsatisfying and her "parents" didn't treat her very well. I dunno, let me know what you guys think.
The "punching table" quote doesn't fit. No one in this movie punches tables or talks about punching tables.

I may add to this later, if I think of anything else.

Disregard this, I was wrong.