"The Order Of Denderah" 10/6/2006

asenath · Post by **asenath** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:20 pm

kilgoretroutlovesyou wrote:
Woo wrote:Aww, Daniel is one of us now!

*Kilgore raises his glass*

Gooble, gooble. Gooble, gobble.
We accept him. One of us,
one of us!

A Freaks reference!

EDITED to add that I agree with those who are saying we should ask him to post the video of the play. I doubt it'll happen, though, since that would mean they'd need to hire more actors.

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:26 pm

I waited long enough to pull out the big guns.
Mysteriously, my most detailed chaos related posts got deleted... not that it matters becuase no one ever listens to me anyway..but that doesn't matter either. I'm sick of spelling things out.
http://local.wasp.uwa.edu.au/~pbourke/fractals/
http://order.ph.utexas.edu/chaos/
http://www.imho.com/grae/chaos/chaos.html

kinj · Post by **kinj** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:36 pm

spaciegirl wrote:I waited long enough to pull out the big guns.
Mysteriously, my most detailed chaos related posts got deleted... not that it matters becuase no one ever listens to me anyway..but that doesn't matter either. I'm sick of spelling things out.
http://local.wasp.uwa.edu.au/~pbourke/fractals/
http://order.ph.utexas.edu/chaos/
http://www.imho.com/grae/chaos/chaos.html

I'm listenin! I see where you're going, I just don't understand how it ties together. Explain please?

CriticalThinking · Post by **CriticalThinking** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:44 pm

HI DANIEL!!!!

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:48 pm

Well, besides the fact that I think every single thing ever spoken, written, thought etc. directly relates to chaos theory...there are obvious correlations between these theories / concepts and: Set, the "devil" or evil..or darkness..or "free will" or determinism...um, let's see: ""magic", Crowley, number sequences...astronomy, astrolgy..lot's of things, everywhere, all the time

CriticalThinking · Post by **CriticalThinking** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:03 pm

ahhh gah, they have been spoiling us with so many videos in such quick succession!! So right now, I am just like "MORE MORE MORE, GIMME QUiCK QUiCK!!"

Wow, I am going take a moment to reflect... It seems like so long ago when LG15 first popped up! When I saw her first blog, I never thought it would lead to all of this stuff about Aleister Crowely and freaky cult ceremonies. And we are all crazies, one big, crazy family. Lord knows the shrinks need to be preparing themselves for an upcoming wave of LG15 freaks. Seriously, what am I going to do with my spare time when all of this is over? Ahh, I have turned about two shades paler from when I first got into all of this.

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:12 pm

i LOVE daniel.

robtomorrow · Post by **robtomorrow** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:19 pm

Ok let me get this straight the Creators post a video "learning to dirve" and attach a tag "Denderah". In the video Daniel and Bree have an argument and Bree refers to something called The Order of (?) Daniel doesn't understand "order of what?" he later reads the comments of people watching the videos and notices that many think that she said "The Order of Denderah" because of the tag.

I don't know but it seems that we just went around in a full circle, or I am getting a little confused.

minsky · Post by **minsky** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:33 pm

spaciegirl wrote:Well, besides the fact that I think every single thing ever spoken, written, thought etc. directly relates to chaos theory...there are obvious correlations between these theories / concepts and: Set, the "devil" or evil..or darkness..or "free will" or determinism...um, let's see: ""magic", Crowley, number sequences...astronomy, astrolgy..lot's of things, everywhere, all the time

hmmm yes I see where you are going with this and it makes sense and fits very well with is whole LG15 project.

I am also intersested to read that u feel that some of your post seem to have been deleted.

I thought that had happened to one of my posts a few days ago. Then I got to doubting myself and thought maybe I did not submit it. Hmmmmmmmm.

kinj · Post by **kinj** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:48 pm

spaciegirl wrote:Well, besides the fact that I think every single thing ever spoken, written, thought etc. directly relates to chaos theory...there are obvious correlations between these theories / concepts and: Set, the "devil" or evil..or darkness..or "free will" or determinism...um, let's see: ""magic", Crowley, number sequences...astronomy, astrolgy..lot's of things, everywhere, all the time

OMG it's tying in my brain I just can't regergitate...I found a website that tied in the egyptian mythology and chaos magick andd I found this:

http://www.chaosmagic.com/

It's supposedly a website for people who practice this now. I'm typing in keywords in the search to see what i can find out about this ceremony. It's a lot coming up. If you all are interested let me know if you guys find anything.

MiniKirk · Post by **MiniKirk** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:43 am

look, i dont expect anyone to care, but i've found a few links for dendera
http://touregypt.net/featurestories/dendera.htm
http://www.sacredsites.com/africa/egypt/dendera.html
http://www.hethert.org/dendera.html
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15218235
the fourth one discusses numerolegy(sp?) i believe, tho i havent had time to check, so busy...trying to get into film school, and working are taking up all my time.(stupid fafsa) ok, bai bai.

edit: the fourth one is just a cataloug entry on the title. sorry
edit2: i just rewatched daniels newest video, and he says he doesnt remember what it was about, perhaps he remembered that it said mayflower and thought it was about the landing, tho it could be about the fellow who left the mayflower...err group thing. the religious one. im sorry im a bit tired. havent slept in a few days cos of insomnia. yay.

S is for Summer · Post by **S is for Summer** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:05 am

If we are, in fact, looking for someone from the actual Mayflower, this guy seems like a possibility, although as yet I'm not sure what connection he might have to Bree's religion:

Stephen Hopkins
http://www.mayflowerhistory.com/Passeng ... opkins.php

Nora Volkova · Post by **Nora Volkova** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:01 am

I've said this elsewhere, but it's possible the play was simply about Crowley and Daniel misunderstood the business about him having "left the Plymouth Brethren" as talking about the Mayflower.

minsky · Post by **minsky** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:15 am

Some interesting reading I found. Link is here http://www.jackfritscher.com click on witchcraft under search. The below is extracted from chapter 3.

Extracts of the file

In New England, the religious colonists perched on Plymouth Rock were desperate
survivalists. Afraid of the American forest, of the Indians, and of each other’s sexual urges, these
refugees–from a Europe terrified by Inquisitional witchcraft–transplanted the Calvinist-Jansenist
split between body and soul into a kind of sexual schizophrenia of good versus evil. From their
founding on religious tolerance, they turned in fear to a rigid Puritanism. Even good humans had
lewd bodies. Pleasure was wrong. Art was immoral; music, forbidden; clothes, plain not fancy.
Yet the colonial ideal was civil liberty and personal freedom. That meant trouble, because where
there’s free will, there’s a witch. In 1636, Anne Hutchinson, an upstart wife new to Boston from
England, was accused of heresy and witchcraft, because women met in her home where she
challenged Puritan teachings on moral conduct and piety. For voicing principles of religious
freedom and civil liberty later written into the Constitution of the United States, the transgressive
poet was banned in Boston, driven out of town on a rail, and forced to live on the frontier where
the First Church of Boston figured the Indians would–and did–kill her.

Jonathan Edwards in his sermon, “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” (1741),
preached masochistic resignation to a sadistic deity whose “Providence” was more to curse than
to bless, if it even bothered to curse. Denied God’s intervention, the Puritans, in their totally

harsh environment, created the first alternative American underground, because God’s failure to
answer their prayers made free-thinker Roger Williams’ naming of “Providence,” Rhode Island,
ironic. Theological irony always leads back to Satan, the original ironist. If God fails to respond,
the Devil is open for business. Irony is the Devil’s tool.
Driven by circumstance, some settlers turned to witchcraft for the comfort theology
denied them. As with witchery’s late 20th-century revival, it was the children who fostered the
colonial cults. It was the young who danced on May 1, 1627, around Thomas Morton’s priapic
May Pole at Merrymount colony in New England–before the Puritans chopped it down. It is the
physically hardy who understand Anton LaVey’s savvy 1966 axiom that Satanism is, in essence,
“libido out for a romp.”

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:12 am

Here's a link with a better list of mayflower passengers and most of their history:

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/welcome.html

And another link to A historical timeline of women during the 1600's:

http://www.mtsu.edu/~kmiddlet/history/w ... -1600.html

There is so much to go through! Are we sure we're on the right path? I think above whoever mentioned the chaos magick is right, but I can't find whats so important about the play and how it relates to now. We need more clues!