[DISCUSSION] OpA Emails/Profile

Logan · Post by **Logan** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:47 pm

Maybe the ceremony is all about Jonas! Bree has to be a virgin sacrifice so that Jonas can throw the ultimate kegger! But both have to do it willingly.

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:10 pm

Logan wrote:Maybe the ceremony is all about Jonas! Bree has to be a virgin sacrifice so that Jonas can throw the ultimate kegger! But both have to do it willingly.

lmao!

amagg · Post by **amagg** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:47 pm

I think it's likely that the original goal Op was referring to is finding the location of Jonas' house. It would be a short-term type of goal, used as a stepping stone to larger plans, and remember that just before Dannyboy went and got himself kidnapped the triangulation video and fake ID drop helped Op narrow down the general region.

ladron121 · Post by **ladron121** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:49 pm

amagg wrote:I think it's likely that the original goal Op was referring to is finding the location of Jonas' house. It would be a short-term type of goal, used as a stepping stone to larger plans, and remember that just before Dannyboy went and got himself kidnapped the triangulation video and fake ID drop helped Op narrow down the general region.

The original goal was to get back the information that Tachyon had stolen from The Order, then to get Tachyon...

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:50 pm

amagg wrote:I think it's likely that the original goal Op was referring to is finding the location of Jonas' house. It would be a short-term type of goal, used as a stepping stone to larger plans, and remember that just before Dannyboy went and got himself kidnapped the triangulation video and fake ID drop helped Op narrow down the general region.

So, are you saying that Op never actually planned to kidnap Daniel but that when she heard he was going back to the bowling alley she realized it might be even better than finding Jonas's house?

girlAnachronism · Post by **girlAnachronism** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:25 pm

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:
amagg wrote:I think it's likely that the original goal Op was referring to is finding the location of Jonas' house. It would be a short-term type of goal, used as a stepping stone to larger plans, and remember that just before Dannyboy went and got himself kidnapped the triangulation video and fake ID drop helped Op narrow down the general region.
So, are you saying that Op never actually planned to kidnap Daniel but that when she heard he was going back to the bowling alley she realized it might be even better than finding Jonas's house?

Yeah, kidnapping Danny B was just a spontaneous decision. Op didn't figure one of the trio would be stupid enough to got out alone. Never underestimate the enemy.

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:43 am

Skyler wrote:

By the looks of it, Daniel spilled the beans

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:45 am

Actually Kelly,

I kinda took it as they are letting the Scooby Crew get comfortable and perhaps we are going to mess with Tachyon...but I could be totally off base on this on. Wouldn't be the first time

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:56 am

well it would be interesting. Tachyon is probably in close proximity to the Scooby Crew (dude I love that nickname for them!) so if they are going to screw around with Tachyon, they'll probably be screwing around with the Scooby Crew at the same time.

imagin · Post by **imagin** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:12 pm

I think we're still missing something.

If she wanted explicit directions to Jonas' house, she could (and may have) gotten them from Daniel. (What puzzles me there is why Tach/Brother would allow Bree/Daniel/Jonas to go back there, and even stay the weekend themselves... there's more to that story. They wouldn't have just spent the weekend hanging out... what did they do to beef up the defenses?)

The whole "get the stuff back from Tach" line of thought sounds more plausible... but not by much. Do we really think that OpAphid didn't have copies of whatever materials Tach took? The threat inherant in Tach taking the materials is who she is planning (or already has) shared them with.

Somehow I seriously doubt Tach is going to be carting those around with her wherever she goes... and if she has not yet sent them on to her intentioned result, it would be likely that she has a back-up plan in place for if she suddenly disappears. She's planned for everything else... that would be a bit too basic to expect her to overlook.

So... needless to say, I'm leaning toward something other then 1) getting Bree back, 2) getting Jonas or Daniel, or 3) getting materials back from Tachyon. I'd go with a maybe on getting Tachyon herself... but still would want to know "why?"... we know so little of Tach's background, and she's apparently (due to her references to "Mom" and "Dad") not the head of the anti-Opaphid (and possibly anti-Order) group... so why wouldn't they go after someone more likely to do them some good?

bethy · Post by **bethy** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:41 pm

So, 30-40 miles radius of Ukiah???

Well, the area of a circle is pi times the square of the radius, right?

so 3.14159265 x (40x40) = 3.14159265 x 1600 = 5026.54824 square miles

Over 5,000 square miles...

You know, Oppy's going about this search all wrong.

I've said before...all they need to do is to figure out the names o the people that went missing those years ago (Jonas' parents)...and trace their names back trough public property records. Anybody iwth 2 cents worth of investigative skill would have that information within a da or two...possibly longer if the property was put into an obscure estate name or something.

Why is it taking Op so f-ing long to find the house?? I can only think of a few reasons:

1. She already knows where it is and is stalling.
2. She isn't really looking for the location of the house.
3. She's looking for the house, but is just a big, incompetent doofus who can't actually research very well or listen to advice.

ladron121 · Post by **ladron121** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:51 pm

imagin wrote: The whole "get the stuff back from Tach" line of thought sounds more plausible... but not by much. Do we really think that OpAphid didn't have copies of whatever materials Tach took? The threat inherant in Tach taking the materials is who she is planning (or already has) shared them with.

Somehow I seriously doubt Tach is going to be carting those around with her wherever she goes... and if she has not yet sent them on to her intentioned result, it would be likely that she has a back-up plan in place for if she suddenly disappears. She's planned for everything else... that would be a bit too basic to expect her to overlook.

Its not the point that OpAphid had copies, its that someone that is not part of their Order, in fact someone working against their Order, has that information and should not. And 6 out of the 8 drops that we have recovered were Tachyon trying to get the stolen information to her Brother. So we are recovering what Tachyon stole, bit by bit, and because she is always moving around, logic would dictate that she does have all of it on her. Remember also that she was cut off from her organization (Mom & Dad), so she has no set base of operations anymore.

So... needless to say, I'm leaning toward something other then 1) getting Bree back, 2) getting Jonas or Daniel, or 3) getting materials back from Tachyon. I'd go with a maybe on getting Tachyon herself... but still would want to know "why?"... we know so little of Tach's background, and she's apparently (due to her references to "Mom" and "Dad") not the head of the anti-Opaphid (and possibly anti-Order) group... so why wouldn't they go after someone more likely to do them some good?

They don't care about Jonas or Daniel, except as tools that give them access to Bree. They do want Bree to complete the ceremony, but first they want their information back. If that information does get to the wrong people, it could jeopardize not only their ceremony, but The Order as a whole. And it has been made clear to us that they want Tachyon in custody, to either get information about her organization out of her, or just to use as an example of what happens when you mess with The Order. And I'll just remind everyone that our point of contact in OpAphid is also not the head of the organization, but has more than enough info to be a liability if captured.

I just had to clear some of this up, people seem to be confused or have forgotten the beginnings of our adventure. Its not just this post, just a trend I am noticing.

I found it helpful to go back and read thru the Aphidpedia, it reminded me of a lot that has happened leading up to where we are now.

windsong · Post by **windsong** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:00 pm

bethy wrote: Why is it taking Op so f-ing long to find the house?? I can only think of a few reasons:

1. She already knows where it is and is stalling.
2. She isn't really looking for the location of the house.
3. She's looking for the house, but is just a big, incompetent doofus who can't actually research very well or listen to advice.

Or maybe 4. Jonas is lying about his past.

Nieriel.Manwathiel · Post by **Nieriel.Manwathiel** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:08 pm

ladron121 wrote:
amagg wrote:I think it's likely that the original goal Op was referring to is finding the location of Jonas' house. It would be a short-term type of goal, used as a stepping stone to larger plans, and remember that just before Dannyboy went and got himself kidnapped the triangulation video and fake ID drop helped Op narrow down the general region.
The original goal was to get back the information that Tachyon had stolen from The Order, then to get Tachyon...

actually, the ORIGINAL goal was to make Bree do the ceremony.

...wasn't that goal before we knew of Tachy?

Balmung · Post by **Balmung** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:56 pm

Is it still possible/neccessary for her to do the ceremony? or has the opportunity already passed? or maybe bree is no longer eligible.

then again, the Order is still very obviously after her, and if they didn't need her for the ceremony, they shouldn't really have any need to keep track of her.

though i suppose they could just think she knows too much..