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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:58 am
by The Great Silence
But who the hell is Stanley Miller supposed to be?
There is a name I haven't heard in a long time. Stanley Miller was a famous biochemist whose speciality was in the origin of life studies. He came up with some famous exeriments in the field. It would make sense that this scientist is his hero along with his dad. I just did a quick wiki search and am surprised to see he died last month; probably natural causes and not order related. ;) I never heard anything about it in the news.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Miller

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:59 am
by TheFatLady
Samara wrote:So, we should now pretty assume that Bree's name is Bree Avery.

Say that out loud.

Sounds a lot like 'bravery"

I kinda think "Avery" is Dad's middle name, Like "Drew Avery Smith."

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:06 am
by pandababy
...jonas really doesn't like sarah. :lol:

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:15 am
by pandababy
but i must say, i'm glad we got some answers, or at least come clues. VERRRRY excited to see how this is all gonna work out.

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:17 am
by my-love-belongs-to-him
okay so when Bree's dad says let me talk to bree maybe it was to ask her about meeting up with Issac and possibly Spencer....or....

(just random spurr of the moment idea:idea: sorry if someone said this already i didn't read all 10 pages...just most of them) :D

any way what if they were still at the cafe (or where ever they met i don't remember) when he made this call and then saw that some on was watching them and wanted to get Bree away from view or something of that sort.

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:21 am
by TheFatLady
In "The Unthinkable Happened," in which Drew dies, he and Bree talk at the cafe, then leave and park in a parking garage and later we see them coming back to the car (this is when Dad is killed). Shall we assume the time they were away from the car was when the phone call was made? And they were on their way back to the car to drive and meet Isaac? The order must have showed up so fast because they heard the phone call and felt it was an emergency to stop the meeting.

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:58 am
by Hippie
NOW they use a backstory... ok ill go with it, but still... shoulda been sooner...

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:06 am
by Renegade
Nice nod to Nikki B., and the "101" was interesting as well...but unfortunately the rest was low on actual information, other than the fact that Bree apparently only needed/s a "final shot" to achieve whatever Mr. Avery wanted to achieve.


If Taylor is such a god-hacker, shouldn't she have been able to find a frickin' death certificate of Isaac Gilman? And obituaries in newspapers?

Also, if the people from the The Mad Scientist wanted Daniel to get lost, wouldn't it have been less suspicious to say "We're sorry, but Dr. Gilman died in a car accident half a year ago." than "There is no Isaac Gilman. Leave now."? It'd also have made them stop looking for him, which'd most certainly have been in the Order's interest.

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:26 am
by curiousGeorge
It's certainly nice that they are trying to fill in some of the past plot issues. I realize that all the pink herrings can never be resolved, but this was a great big step.

The vid was a little confusing, but overall appeared to be more professional on just about every level. Well done.

I thought of you Trainer as soon as I saw that door :lol: .

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:31 am
by AM
This has been the best video in months. Bree is Dr. David Banner hounded by the evil reporter as he tries to alter his body chemistry. She is Edward Scissor hands whose creator dies with the real hands right before they can be attached. She is the fugitive constantly searching for the one armed man. She is the archetype of the hero who can never rest.

This video is important because it finally defines which archetype Bree fits. We all knew that Bree was a mythic character on a journey we just didn't know which mythic character or what journey. She is not Dorothy or Sinbad or Wendy from Peter Pan who in the end always return home safe, sound and unharmed. She can never go home again. Indeed home no longer exists.

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:18 am
by marlasinger
YES YES YES Thank youuuuu Creators, you're back on the effing train. Good God yes.

Okay, so firstly, this eradicates Isaac being 22 - I'm sure someone's mentioned that. I'm going to go read the thread properly then respond again. brb.


EDIT: Okay! So now we know. The 22 year old isn't Isaac, it's Spencer, as we've all mentioned - and the myspace looks official, although someone's gotta slap the Creators and teach them how to use css in profiles. I volunteer! ;)

As for both Isaac and Drew dying on the same day - evidently the Order understood what was going on, which will make recreating this serum with Spencer MUCH more difficult - the idea being that the Order will eventually figure out what's going on again, thusly putting everyone's lives in real danger.

I don't think she looks that much like Alex, to be honest, but to me that's beside the point.

Does this mean that Bree's [adopted] last name is Avery? Or is that a second name?

Also: the last injection - I'm not sure if it would be possible to just administer one last injection - it makes sense that it might have to be over another period of time considering the trait has probably cycled back out of remission and is growing again.

We're going to have to work hard here, ladies. The next video will give us a better feeling of where we are, I think.

The theory of Spencer being related to Bree? Not sure about that one. But it would make sense that Bree and Spence would do well together if they both were growing up as Order children with Resistance fathers. The hope being perhaps that they could give each other support.

I'll watch it a few more times and comment further. Good job guys.

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:34 am
by trainer101
curiousGeorge wrote:I thought of you Trainer as soon as I saw that door :lol: .
YAY! I've been canonized... as a door. :lol:

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:21 am
by marlasinger
also, if that myspace is official, then canada represent! spence likes BNL! woot!

I had a friend whose cottage was right down the river from BNL's cottage. Apparently they're super awesome guys. Swoon!

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:50 am
by Sheqinah
Ok, just a guess, but I wonder if there is significance in the number of times the HoO video said happiness? Could it be that the ceremony was to happen in 15 days, or on the 15th of the next month?

I know it is not this video but it's all related right?

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:52 am
by Sheqinah
marlasinger wrote:also, if that myspace is official, then canada represent! spence likes BNL! woot!

I had a friend whose cottage was right down the river from BNL's cottage. Apparently they're super awesome guys. Swoon!
IF it is a Canadian role call then I am lining up Woot!