[Puzzle] Red and Black Image 10/02/06

blugh · Post by **blugh** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:17 pm

Hey.. i left for 2 hours.. just wonderin what part we are workin on now?

dlruss0216 · Post by **dlruss0216** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:18 pm

HisGirl wrote:I see two ppl looking at each other- the one on the left with a longer neck. Anyone else?

Yes! It could very well be an illusion, the type where if you look at it one way it's one picture, and if you look at it another way it's another picture.

I think you're on to something. We need to google something like "people, vase, illusion". If it really is an illusion, than someone created it.

But I'm using the wrong word, it's not illusion, what do they call this?

dlruss0216 · Post by **dlruss0216** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:20 pm

How about this?

http://www.psychologie.tu-dresden.de/i1 ... round.html

I'm still looking though...

EDIT - Somewhat "troutish", although my pic is a little different than the prior one, and there's background in my link.

2nd EDIT - One point, there are a million webpages with this exact same illusion, therefore it's a classic. BUT, none of these have the whitish piece that sits on top of the vase. Therefore, she's taken a classic illusion and added to it. One page that shows this illusion calls it two men about ready to kiss. My bet is, and I'm guessing it's really a man and a woman, that the whitish is a baby as someone had already mentioned. Within the whitish area, you see what looks like a line drawn that could be the outline of a head. Thoughts?

3rd EDIT - All the web pages on this particular illusion talk about this being a classic test of right versus left brain. It seems that, depending on which side of your brain is more predominant determines the way in which you see this picture. I doubt that this plays into. I think she just borrowed this illusion to prove a point, such as a couple with a baby.

Jana4 · Post by **Jana4** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:23 pm

I "want" to believe it's a vase from the new picture, but the only reason I cannot is because it is the same shape as an odd religious symbol or figurine I saw while researching another area of the Cassie stuff. I remember thinking "Why would they make the end the shape of a penis?" (in my mind I used a different word than penis). I have tried retracing my steps, looking through my history, and can't find it again...or yet.

looking4answers · Post by **looking4answers** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:24 pm

looking at the pic again and the at the who answer, the top writting is the same as the who answer. here is a link to compare.

http://lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1339

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/m ... hannel.jpg

sorry if this has already been proven

the third one is the when clue
http://lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1341

Sungkoo · Post by **Sungkoo** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:26 pm

Indeed, its obviously a key to the first three poems...

but the pic on the side is interesting

annapanna · Post by **annapanna** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:27 pm

Luv2Skydive wrote:Yippeee!

http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vasesb7.jpg

Well, call me crazy, I can see a person - probably a man - who carries something (heavy?) on his head, I can see his face... My problem with the vase-theory: the "object" is not symmetrically, so if these were the elbows of someone that wouldn't matter, would it. But for a vase?!

dlruss0216 · Post by **dlruss0216** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:27 pm

Check out this link. They state that this is a CHALICE or a vase. Someone before had said it want' a chalice and looks more like a vase, yet this site feels that it could be either. If this is true, then this fits with our "theme".

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... _n16202705

blugh · Post by **blugh** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:06 pm

i dunno if this has been said but i think that our lil picture is an Urn... probably been said already but just lettin you know

Jana4 · Post by **Jana4** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:14 pm

dlruss0216 wrote:Check out this link. They state that this is a CHALICE or a vase. Someone before had said it want' a chalice and looks more like a vase, yet this site feels that it could be either. If this is true, then this fits with our "theme".

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... _n16202705

You keep posting that, but I don't see a picture on that site to prove it. Am I missing it?

blugh · Post by **blugh** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:17 pm

Jana4 wrote:
dlruss0216 wrote:Check out this link. They state that this is a CHALICE or a vase. Someone before had said it want' a chalice and looks more like a vase, yet this site feels that it could be either. If this is true, then this fits with our "theme".

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... _n16202705
You keep posting that, but I don't see a picture on that site to prove it. Am I missing it?

its an articule about a small company makin vases that are sillohettes of loved ones or whatever you want

Briphelia · Post by **Briphelia** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:44 pm

I'm seeing the vase, too... but in terms of allusion, it may still be a picture of a "woman"...
It's a classic literary trope and metaphor that a woman is like a vase, or a vessel. This is because: 1) they possess a womb to hold and bear children and 2) they take a man's "seed" (trying to be genteel here) and are able to pass on his bloodline as if "carrying" it in the form of a child.
Reference to the ceremony perhaps? Bree will just be a vessel and the "two faces" will orchestrate the ceremony?
Just some thoughts.

blugh · Post by **blugh** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:50 pm

Briphelia wrote:I'm seeing the vase, too... but in terms of allusion, it may still be a picture of a "woman"...
It's a classic literary trope and metaphor that a woman is like a vase, or a vessel. This is because: 1) they possess a womb to hold and bear children and 2) they take a man's "seed" (trying to be genteel here) and are able to pass on his bloodline as if "carrying" it in the form of a child.
Reference to the ceremony perhaps? Bree will just be a vessel and the "two faces" will orchestrate the ceremony?
Just some thoughts.

great thought.. we had discussed something about Bree bein inpregnated at the ceremony

SbS · Post by **SbS** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:05 pm

Hey guys. Don't know if this will help or not, but I played around with this pic a bit in Picasa, and below please find the results. Not sure if we can mine anything from them, but at least they are artsy!

FYI: I'm working on the assumption that this is a vase of some sort.

Here's the original for comparison...

Here's the picture with "fill light" @ 100%. Note the large green splotch in the middle. Might be something going on there, or Picasa sucks. You be the judge...

Here's the picture with both "shadow" and "highlights" set at 100%. Definately something going on at the bottom. Also, note the edges--old picture of something?

And finally, here's the "face" near the top with the colors tweaked a bit to bring out the detail. To me the face looks Asian, rather than being a baby. Something Chinese or Japanese , perhaps? I did a Google search for "chinese vase" and "japanese vase" and found a lot of similar looking faces on the vases. That rhymed....

Feel free to upload them to Photoshop for further review. Picasa doesnt have a zoom feature. Hope my giant, picture loaded post is kosher.

Godspeed...

SbS · Post by **SbS** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:24 pm

Oops, forgot to upload this pic of the bottom of the picture with the tinting altered to accentuate the detail...