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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:46 am
by trainer101
I just noticed that "helicopter" is one of the tags on the YouTube version. They are going out of their way to point it out.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:53 am
by iqfrenzy
grellen wrote:You know, for people whose sole job it is to "watch," those watchers sure aren't subtle. Hanging out idly in a parking lots or grocery stores wearing a black suit (especially in California) doesn't exactly make you inconspicuous.
They could want it that way. If Daniel and Bree are paranoid it might force them to do whatever it is the order wants them to do. Sort of like a cat chasing it's tail until it gets worn out. This could relate to what Spacie said about Bree coming to them voluntarily. Maybe they are just letting them go until they run out of money and/or the will to run.

Or Daniel abandons Bree...another possibility.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:55 am
by islandlove
could anyone see the watcher when he was looking in?

could you post a screenshot. thanks

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:09 am
by iqfrenzy
trainer101 wrote:
Virginia wrote:I skipped a few pages here, so please forgive if someone else pointed this out, but I just noticed something. At the 40 second mark, right after Daniel says "Hurry, check under the drawers, check under the bed" he whispers something. It's really quiet, but if you put headphones on and turn the volume up, it sounds like "stupid s***" or "stupid b****."

Um, I don't like that! Was it him getting out of character, or is this another clue that Daniel is not the sweet guy we want him to be?

edited to add: Sorry, the first guess isn't very clear. To me, it sounds like "stupid sh*t" or "stupid bi*ch"
It does sound like "stupid sh*t", doesn't it?

Also, right when they open the door to leave - is that Lucy's silver car in the parking lot?
Trainer, I think you may be right. It does look like Lucy's vehicle. However, it would seem like Bree would notice that and freak the hell out.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:17 am
by trainer101
Check it out - Nikki has a new vid (and she mentions little ol' me... WOOHOO!) :oops:

http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewt ... ght=#73374

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:20 am
by trainer101
iqfrenzy wrote:
trainer101 wrote:
Virginia wrote:I skipped a few pages here, so please forgive if someone else pointed this out, but I just noticed something. At the 40 second mark, right after Daniel says "Hurry, check under the drawers, check under the bed" he whispers something. It's really quiet, but if you put headphones on and turn the volume up, it sounds like "stupid s***" or "stupid b****."

Um, I don't like that! Was it him getting out of character, or is this another clue that Daniel is not the sweet guy we want him to be?

edited to add: Sorry, the first guess isn't very clear. To me, it sounds like "stupid sh*t" or "stupid bi*ch"
It does sound like "stupid sh*t", doesn't it?

Also, right when they open the door to leave - is that Lucy's silver car in the parking lot?
Trainer, I think you may be right. It does look like Lucy's vehicle. However, it would seem like Bree would notice that and freak the hell out.
You can never tell with these vids. They shot the helicopter too but never mentioned it - then the word "helicopter" ends up being one of the tags on YouTube.

NikkiBower connection.....

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:43 am
by Neptune
In the NikkiBowerReport on YouTube she mentions that we should "look closer" at the videos, and uses the miniture Nancy Drew book from the OpAphid/Tachyon vids.
I did see a tiny clip of a notepad or paper with a pencil on top on the table before the chaos of packing ensues right when Daniel and Bree leave the hotel room. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09EASkbi-aQ)
NikkiBower talks about getting out our (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmCkIS331TU) magnifying glasses. I don't know how to capture screen shots or magnify the image, but maybe it's worth a try on the last two vids. She says to look for"blotches" and "blurs" and scrutinize them for details and "words".
Side Note: Anyone think she looks like the face and eyes in the Tachyon vid "They Are Still Everywhere"?(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7LKU-T2h04)

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:07 am
by Wisi Girl
trainer101: That is so cool! Who knows about this Nikki Bower but I personally don't think it is anything we should be getting too excited over. I say she is just another fan! Perhaps what she said at the end quells the sudden suspicion that she is indeed something greater: Look more closely. Basically, if we all scrutinized the videos and did as much "reporting" as she has, then we can also predict things such as the tattoo. She is telling us that she is nothing more than an extremely sharp fan.
However, it is still really neat that you were singeled out! Seriously, there are so many fans on this site and YOU are the one she cites as a source! I would be gloating if I were you! Ha ha! You know what this means, right? If a heavily involved fan takes direction from you then who knows what the creators think of your input? I say we conduct an experiment! You mention something that should be in the next video and see if it is! I don't mean a major event but something small....

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:11 am
by quikstrike98
I don't think the tracking device is attached to the car, I think it's in P-Monkey. Easy enough to insert a small GPS device into a stuffed animal. Matter of fact, I'm willing to bet that it was the cult that put the money into P-Monkey as well.

Notice that nobody ran helter-skelter after them when they ran. There's really no need to, they can round them up at their leisure.

Wow

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:16 am
by glowe126
This was so f*ing cool! And it was my friend's birthday too! Nicki Bower rocks!

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:01 am
by DontHaveAClue
Wow that was intense. Congrats to the Creators. That was a f*****g good vid! :D

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:02 am
by iamcool
wot a f** daniel is, i'd have grabbed something out of the room and kicked some ass

but brees doing it on purpose :shock: they r after daniel!!!

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:06 am
by trainer101
Wisi Girl wrote:trainer101: That is so cool! Who knows about this Nikki Bower but I personally don't think it is anything we should be getting too excited over. I say she is just another fan! Perhaps what she said at the end quells the sudden suspicion that she is indeed something greater: Look more closely. Basically, if we all scrutinized the videos and did as much "reporting" as she has, then we can also predict things such as the tattoo. She is telling us that she is nothing more than an extremely sharp fan.
However, it is still really neat that you were singeled out! Seriously, there are so many fans on this site and YOU are the one she cites as a source! I would be gloating if I were you! Ha ha! You know what this means, right? If a heavily involved fan takes direction from you then who knows what the creators think of your input? I say we conduct an experiment! You mention something that should be in the next video and see if it is! I don't mean a major event but something small....
I too believe Nikki is a fan playing along. Somebody (the Creators? OpAphid?) fed her the info about that box with the eye on it. They (whomever ‘they’ are) are taking advantage of her persona as an investigative reporter to disseminate information. Either that or the Creators are incorporating bits from the fans into the show - which is a distinct possibility since Nikki had the symbol before Gemma vid and OpAphid mentioned the Watchers several days ago. hmmm...

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:20 am
by Luv2Skydive
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:
Wisi Girl wrote:
imogene2004 wrote:
Wisi Girl wrote: OH CRAZY!!! SO, THAT IS YOUR IP??? HA HA HA!!!

Psst! I go to BYU Hawaii, too!
You're kidding, right? :?
Nope! Ha ha ha! This is some incredible irony! It isn't even a big university! You want proof? I am staying in hale 5 and the night show is going to start really soon. I can hear it perfectly from my window!

LMFAO.

Holy cow......Samara freaks me out! :shock: :shock:

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:15 am
by Lurker
quikstrike98 wrote:I don't think the tracking device is attached to the car, I think it's in P-Monkey. Easy enough to insert a small GPS device into a stuffed animal. Matter of fact, I'm willing to bet that it was the cult that put the money into P-Monkey as well.

Notice that nobody ran helter-skelter after them when they ran. There's really no need to, they can round them up at their leisure.
I've mentioned this before, but it would be an absolutely awful idea to put the tracking device in P. Monkey -- or at least to rely solely on a tracking device in him. It could either be found (especially after Gemma told them to check everything for bugs; Bree presumably checked the stuffed animals) or P. Monkey could be lost/thrown away. Daniel's car, on the other hand, they aren't going to throw away. Besides, the Order obviously knew that they were at the motel, so if the car wasn't bugged before, it definitely is now.


Anyway, good video, Creators. Now that they're finally out of that damn motel, things might go somewhere (which is not to say all the motel moments were bad; as I've mentioned before, the "Breakfast in Bed" video has been one of my favorites from this whole series).